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Old 10th Feb 2001, 08:57 PM   #1
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Is it possable to make it so you can shoot through zone portals?
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Old 10th Feb 2001, 09:04 PM   #2
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I've never not been able to as far as I can tell.
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i thought you could always shoot thru them
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You CAN shoot through portals, although, only non-instant hit weapons will have their projectiles go through. So only the sniper rifle, enforcer, shockrifle primary fire and minigun will not shoot through....
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These are warp Zones so I can change the angle of the portal to make the floor on the other side look tilted.
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just create zone portals, and change the gravity.

that way will work, I don't think you can shoot through warps
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you can should a Redeemer though a portal... but not portals like on face... Im talking about the other type of portal

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er, other type of portals DS? as in warp or zone portals?


since i'm confused i'm sure someone else is..
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Old 11th Feb 2001, 03:41 AM   #9
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Only physical actors can go through a warpzone. Minigun, enforcer, shockpimary, pulseprimary, sniperrifle are not physical projectiles so they stop at the portal.
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just create zone portals, and change the gravity.

that way will work, I don't think you can shoot through warps
No that way won't work because by the time you got half way around the ring you would be standing on your head. It doesnt matter which way the gravity is set, down is always down even if gravity is up.
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DM-Fractal doesnt do this. The only warp zones in DM-Fractal are the player starts which drop you into the arena but you cannot shoot into them with instant hit weapons.

I am not talking about shooting throgh a regular zone portal sheet, I am talking about shooting through a warp zone. They are different.
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DM-Fractal doesnt do this. The only warp zones in DM-Fractal are the player starts which drop you into the arena but you cannot shoot into them with instant hit weapons.


yes, it does, shoot the little yellow triggers and look down without bots, shoot off a rocket, then look up quick, you'll see it fly through and re-appear above you, hit the wall, and explode, try flying and shooting a shock rifel through, have someone else looking above or something, or else you won't see it, I'm not to sure about that, you probably need to create a strait map to really see if it works, but I think it does, try it.

I know for a fact that Fractal DOES have a warp zone that at least non-trace fire weapons can pass through.
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I know that missles will go through warp zones but I want ALL weapons to go through, The reason is that these warp zones are not supposed to be noticed and if a sniper rifle or mini gun dont work its not worth doing.

Even in the post you quoted I specified that you cannot shoot through them with Instant hit weapons.
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Ok ok, i see what you mean now, I appologize, and there is no way to do it, sorry, asked around no one I knew (a sizable deal of people) and none can come up with a way.
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Lightbulb possible, but......

The hitscan weapons (enforcer, sniper, etc) don't use physical objects (already said somewhere above here).

Instead, they trace a line from the start point (the barrel of your gun) at a certain angle (where you were looking at) and the trace stops when something is hit (wall, player, etc). This is where the "bullet" hits.

Because portals, in a way, stop this trace, it also stops the "bullets". I think you can change this, but it would involve some bad-ass scripting, which I doubt you want to do.
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Portals don't stop the tracing. That's why you're able to shoot through normal zone portals with those scan weapons. However, the tracing goes on physically-meaning into the warp zone box instead of on the other side of the warp.
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Portals don't stop the tracing. That's why you're able to shoot through normal zone portals with those scan weapons. However, the tracing goes on physically-meaning into the warp zone box instead of on the other side of the warp.
Hmmm should've explained myself better, because that's what I meant fuzzpilz

The portal itself doesn't stop the trace, but it stops in the "box" behind it. The trace doesnt go through the teleporter/portal (that would make sniping on face pretty damn weird)
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This Thread should have stopped at my last post. I'm not sure what the debate is here.

Projectiles - Yes
TraceHit Weapons - No

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We are not having a debate, we're just explaing WHY it works like that for those of us who want to know such things
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