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Old 28th Jul 2012, 07:51 PM   #1
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99% and 1%

I'm not exactly following the occupy stuff. What's sure is that you don't see someone going through the streets in a rolls royce beating others with a stick. How do you think things will turn out and where do you see yourself in ten years ?
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Old 28th Jul 2012, 08:08 PM   #2
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The Outstanding Public Debt as of 29 Jul 2012 at 01:05:09 AM GMT is:
$15,887,853,107,467.39

The estimated population of the United States is 313,217,441
so each citizen's share of this debt is $50,724.68.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.90 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
I don't know what your point is but it saddens me that it's only a ramshackle group as ineffective as the occupy movement that is actually expressing it's concern at this, along with other, dire set of circumstances.

Maybe they need to swing some sticks because so far the 1% have not even come close to listening and so far just thrown batons and pepper spray at kids basically.

In ten years time there won't be much for any of us to be happy about I doubt.
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Old 28th Jul 2012, 09:49 PM   #3
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You are witnessing the decay of power. Very similar things happened towards the end of the Roman Empire. The system was decaying due to various reasons, but I'm too tired to really reference them at this moment, or simply just don't want to put the effort into digging it up again.

1989th post.

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Old 28th Jul 2012, 10:43 PM   #4
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 02:50 AM   #5
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I don't know what your point is but it saddens me that it's only a ramshackle group as ineffective as the occupy movement that is actually expressing it's concern at this, along with other, dire set of circumstances.

Maybe they need to swing some sticks because so far the 1% have not even come close to listening and so far just thrown batons and pepper spray at kids basically.

In ten years time there won't be much for any of us to be happy about I doubt.
You actually thought the occupy movement would make any difference?
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 02:51 AM   #6
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Not those rich arseholes.
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If you guys spent 3/4s what you do on military spending each year, you'd have that debt back in a couple of decades. True story.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 11:51 AM   #10
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If you guys spent 3/4s what you do on military spending each year, you'd have that debt back in a couple of decades. True story.
Yeah, i mean defense is not really important right?

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 12:22 PM   #11
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12% on welfare?????
22% on Health??????
22% on Pensions??????
USA is 56% socialist.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 12:41 PM   #12
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Yeah, i mean defense is not really important right?

Dump the construction of those 25 nuclear submarines and you'll save $60 billion alone. Or you could all pay more tax.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 01:03 PM   #13
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12% on welfare?????
22% on Health??????
22% on Pensions??????
USA is 56% socialist.
And 24% militant. The largest individual segment there is being spent on military, though that chart's not accurate/up to date. The recent military cuts bring that in line with the other two 22% segments. It's become more apparent over the years that a lot of these programs (especially aeronautics and engineering in the DOD) have become unsustainable.

We're trying to replace three different planes with 5th generation fighters and MRFs, but that's insanely expensive and really, just not worth it in the long run. Military plane development costs have risen sharply over the past thirty years. Not just because of how long it takes to develop an advanced aircraft like the F-35 Lightning II, but how much research goes into developing the electronics suites of these aircraft, not to mention the insanely costly VTOL variant. The F-35 was poised to replace the F-18 Super Hornet, and the AV-88B Harrier and the A-10 Thunderbolt II (though there's still not a single plane tougher than the A-10 in the US Military when it comes to ground attack). Its development costs are pretty damn high.

To curb the costs, the gov halved their orders on the F-35 Lightning II. This plane has been going through many redesign phases and delays and is increasingly costly. Not to mention past projects like the Comanche (which was never deployed or produced) but was still costly at $6.9 Billion at its time of cancellation.

The F-35 is the most expensive defense program to date, with costs of refitting and delays factored in, it's a wonder how Lockheed Martin hasn't gone down the tubes.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 02:12 PM   #14
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so each citizen's share of this debt is $50,724.68.
To whoever wrote this: Your debt is not my debt.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 03:57 PM   #15
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Yeah, i mean defense is not really important right?

that's only projected spending for 2012.
try considering our total national debt. defense accounts for a much larger piece of the pie when you look at our debt, and most of it is utterly useless.



the US spends more on its military than the next 20 countries combined. and virtually all of those countries are long-standing allies from who we have nothing to fear. our defense budget is so bloated it's disgusting. if you can't see that then you're simply blind. it desperately needs to be looked at with a serious eye towards reasonable cuts. but no politician seems to want to touch defense spending. they need to grow some ****ing balls and start hacking away at it or we're never going to save this economy... not in the long run.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 04:17 PM   #16
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To whoever wrote this: Your debt is not my debt.
You pay taxes? It's your debt.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 04:41 PM   #17
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You pay taxes?
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Even if the former were true, this does not follow. I am not responsible for the poor economic decisions of other people regardless of whether I'm bribing them to keep me out of prison.

Also, the plan is to be out of the country in a few years.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 05:11 PM   #18
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I never said you were responsible for it but it does suck paying for someone else's screw ups.

It doesn't matter which country you go to. It's the same the world over.

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Old 29th Jul 2012, 05:23 PM   #19
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Even if the former were true, this does not follow. I am not responsible for the poor economic decisions of other people regardless of whether I'm bribing them to keep me out of prison.

Also, the plan is to be out of the country in a few years.
And what kind of perfect world do you live in that exempts you from paying taxes?

And it doesn't matter what country you go to. The entire world is ****ed, so might as well choose the lesser ****ed country.
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Old 29th Jul 2012, 05:31 PM   #20
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Also, the plan is to be out of the country in a few years.
The best decision anyone can make.
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