StarCraft II - Page 3

Kantham · 28th Apr 2008, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc

I prefer the cartoony space sci-fi art style that SC2 has going on. CNC3 just looks like any other military RTS with a few sci-fi themes thrown in.

imo

I agree.

I also agree that Warsow < Q3

Kantham · 24th Dec 2008, 01:05 AM

New video over IGN

Edit: I really don't like the pylon warp thing, sounds overpowered.
lol, I was sure the Protoss would win this one.

Fuzzle · 24th Dec 2008, 01:22 AM

I wouldn't dwell on balance judging by videos alone. There are so many factors involved, and it's moot arguing for or against it using speculations. For all we know, there might be a "delete all pylons on map" on the terran's interface that the player just forgot to press.

Airmoran · 24th Dec 2008, 02:28 AM

I mostly just don't like the "colorful" commentary. Its shields are almost down! It looks like unbelievably, the probe is going to dodge the marine and... it looks like the stalker is - oh, absolutely the stalker is a great- Yes! An amazing shot by and who's gonna win this is it gonna be the marauder or the stalker and oh! Looks like the marauder got an extra shot in there and a-

Goddamn.

Kantham · 24th Dec 2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmoran

I mostly just don't like the "colorful" commentary. Its shields are almost down! It looks like unbelievably, the probe is going to dodge the marine and... it looks like the stalker is - oh, absolutely the stalker is a great- Yes! An amazing shot by and who's gonna win this is it gonna be the marauder or the stalker and oh! Looks like the marauder got an extra shot in there and a-

Goddamn.

You know how it is. Otherwise sit and watch talks are too boring for them. I was face-palming at that Marine VS Probe commentary though, big time. lol. Way overboard.

Fuzzle · 24th Dec 2008, 03:01 AM

I quite like the cnc battlecasts. They're a bit more deliberately tongue-in-cheek, and some of them made me lol. Especially the duel between the two presenters when one accidentally sold his refinery, and put his epic unit on a bridge which went down.

Kantham · 27th Dec 2008, 03:58 PM

With all this SC2 stuff I've been tempted to play some SC again. But I can't stand the silly 640X480 resolution, it's so cramped and ugly. I've been searching on the web for a solution and couldn't believe no one made a mod or anything to gain a larger resolution. The only solution I keep seeing people link to is this one using 3D Analyzer:

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...1&postcount=24

And obvious no one wants to set his screen to 80 MHZ. My LCD doesn't even reach that.

IronMonkey · 27th Dec 2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kantham

With all this SC2 stuff I've been tempted to play some SC again. But I can't stand the silly 640X480 resolution, it's so cramped and ugly.

I've been playing through the Terrain campaign and what I can't stand is Sarah Kerrigan's annoying simper. I had forgotten how annoying it is.

640x480 is OK on a netbook.

TWD · 27th Dec 2008, 10:24 PM

I think the commentary is just another way of showing the competitive approach that they're taking with this game. Notice the great spectator features that really allow the spectator to see what's going on. Many of the features such as the destructible rocks are features that were common in many of the custom made pro maps. They took every opportunity to stress the intricacies of the micro. I've never seen a developer go so far out of their way to appeal to professional players like this. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Fuzzle · 28th Dec 2008, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWD

I've never seen a developer go so far out of their way to appeal to professional players like this.

EA deserves some credits for their battlecasts imo.

http://www.commandandconquer.com/portal/site/cnc/bcpt/

Their battlecasts are commentated tournaments, and their command school is micro protips as well as comments on changes in the metagame from patches. It's what really made me want to sit down and get competitive with cnc3.

Kantham · 18th Apr 2009, 10:20 PM

Battle report 2

Less "OMG MARINE SHOTS THE DRONE OMG!!" talk than BR 1.

JaFO · 19th Apr 2009, 01:39 PM

*eh* how come the terran was declared a winner in that battlereport ?

toniglandyl · 19th Apr 2009, 03:57 PM

cause they won ?

Shadow · 19th Apr 2009, 04:05 PM

StarCraft 2 looks so cool. But why do I have to suck so damn much at RTS?

JaFO · 19th Apr 2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by toniglandyl

cause they won ?

'cause the enemy base was still alive ...
didn't look like a 'victory' to me anyways.

TWD · 19th Apr 2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JaFO

'cause the enemy base was still alive ...
didn't look like a 'victory' to me anyways.

The player surrendered. Once that expansion was taken out it was only a matter of time. Next attack and it would have been over. The Zerg knew he was beat, and admitted defeat.

Kantham · 19th Apr 2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaFO

'cause the enemy base was still alive ...
didn't look like a 'victory' to me anyways.

I thought they clearly mentioned that in the video.
So for Jafo, you have to destroy every buildings to win even after the opponent has left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow

StarCraft 2 looks so cool. But why do I have to suck so damn much at RTS?

I have the severe feeling that anyone who was bad at SC1, will be terrible at SC2 with all the new features and tactics. But hey, for once a game developer doesn't step back and make their game even more casual than the title before.

FuLLBLeeD · 19th Apr 2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kantham

I thought they clearly mentioned that in the video.

I have the severe feeling that anyone who was bad at SC1, will be terrible at SC2 with all the new features and tactics. But hey, for once a game developer doesn't step back and make their game even more casual than the title before.

SF4 and UT3 were the same way...too bad Smash Bros. Brawl wasn't...

Shadow · 19th Apr 2009, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kantham

I have the severe feeling that anyone who was bad at SC1, will be terrible at SC2 with all the new features and tactics. But hey, for once a game developer doesn't step back and make their game even more casual than the title before.

Yeah this is why I don't think I'll be getting SC2. I mean I can barley beat the computer in SC1 as it is.

JaFO · 20th Apr 2009, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWD

The player surrendered. Once that expansion was taken out it was only a matter of time. Next attack and it would have been over. The Zerg knew he was beat, and admitted defeat.

ah ... I guess I missed that.
Considering that the terran managed to get back from a single base position I figured the Zergs could have done the same.
Seems rather cheap to surrender that easily ...
//
I have the feeling that anyone who was good at SC1 will manage to scare away the newbies into leaving by endless complaints well before the community has a chance to grow.

It seems a shame that the game is also extremely dependent players being able to micromanage the units in order not to lose units to broken pathfinding (as happened in the video).

This genre really could use a big newbie-friendly series to do for the pc what Halo Wars did for this genre on the consoles ...

24th Dec 2008, 01:05 AM	#42
Kantham Fool. Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2004 Posts: 17,947	New video over IGN Edit: I really don't like the pylon warp thing, sounds overpowered. lol, I was sure the Protoss would win this one. __________________ Last edited by Kantham; 24th Dec 2008 at 01:30 AM.

24th Dec 2008, 01:22 AM	#43
Fuzzle spam noob Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,784	I wouldn't dwell on balance judging by videos alone. There are so many factors involved, and it's moot arguing for or against it using speculations. For all we know, there might be a "delete all pylons on map" on the terran's interface that the player just forgot to press. __________________ SPIWAWAWWO

24th Dec 2008, 02:28 AM	#44
Airmoran Construct Join Date: Nov. 9th, 2004 Posts: 2,075	Yes, the commentary does make the whole game worse. It just does. I mostly just don't like the "colorful" commentary. Its shields are almost down! It looks like unbelievably, the probe is going to dodge the marine and... it looks like the stalker is - oh, absolutely the stalker is a great- Yes! An amazing shot by and who's gonna win this is it gonna be the marauder or the stalker and oh! Looks like the marauder got an extra shot in there and a- Goddamn. __________________ --Advertisement--

24th Dec 2008, 03:01 AM	#46
Fuzzle spam noob Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 1,784	I quite like the cnc battlecasts. They're a bit more deliberately tongue-in-cheek, and some of them made me lol. Especially the duel between the two presenters when one accidentally sold his refinery, and put his epic unit on a bridge which went down. __________________ SPIWAWAWWO

27th Dec 2008, 03:58 PM	#47
Kantham Fool. Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2004 Posts: 17,947	With all this SC2 stuff I've been tempted to play some SC again. But I can't stand the silly 640X480 resolution, it's so cramped and ugly. I've been searching on the web for a solution and couldn't believe no one made a mod or anything to gain a larger resolution. The only solution I keep seeing people link to is this one using 3D Analyzer: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...1&postcount=24 And obvious no one wants to set his screen to 80 MHZ. My LCD doesn't even reach that. __________________

27th Dec 2008, 10:24 PM	#49
TWD Cute and Cuddly Join Date: Aug. 2nd, 2000 Location: Salt Lake City UT Posts: 7,261	I think the commentary is just another way of showing the competitive approach that they're taking with this game. Notice the great spectator features that really allow the spectator to see what's going on. Many of the features such as the destructible rocks are features that were common in many of the custom made pro maps. They took every opportunity to stress the intricacies of the micro. I've never seen a developer go so far out of their way to appeal to professional players like this. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. __________________

18th Apr 2009, 10:20 PM	#51
Kantham Fool. Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2004 Posts: 17,947	Battle report 2 Less "OMG MARINE SHOTS THE DRONE OMG!!" talk than BR 1. __________________

19th Apr 2009, 01:39 PM	#52
JaFO bugs are features too ... Join Date: Nov. 5th, 2000 Posts: 5,483	eh how come the terran was declared a winner in that battlereport ?

19th Apr 2009, 03:57 PM	#53
toniglandyl internal data fragmentation : 62203480% Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2006 Posts: 2,853	cause they won ? __________________

19th Apr 2009, 04:05 PM	#54
Shadow Has Balls Of Steel Join Date: Oct. 20th, 2004 Posts: 1,317	StarCraft 2 looks so cool. But why do I have to suck so damn much at RTS?

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