Vic Viper and Lord British interest?

Gungriffon Geona · 18th Jan 2006, 11:18 PM

No, not the ZOE Vic Viper, and not that stupid Ultima Online "Lord British". I'm talking about Gradius here, people. the two greatest ships ever created, who've survived 20 years in the gaming world and stood the test of time. even when the "hip" thing was to move all games to 3D gameplay, even if it meant screwing up the old formula.

Well ya know, I wouldn't mind seeing these two great ships in UT2K4
Now I can model these two by myself, but I want to know if there is enough interest in this to get some help with the other parts of a small project like this.
Anyone?

Turret 49 · 19th Jan 2006, 12:52 AM

Similar thread (post #8 has some pictures of the Vic Viper)

Gungriffon Geona · 19th Jan 2006, 01:59 AM

The fact that no one even knows that the Lord British even exists makes the difference.

even though it won't actually matter, since I'm going to make the models whether anyone likes it or not, here is a site with ref pictures of both ships.

Turret 49 · 19th Jan 2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gungriffon Geona

here is a site with ref pictures of both ships.

Gungriffon Geona · 19th Jan 2006, 12:54 PM

Ack, I completely forgot the link!
http://www.gamestone.co.uk/gradius/a...&artist=Konami

Vailias · 19th Jan 2006, 01:55 PM

course no one knows lord british exists, it only even figures into gameplay if you have a friend. It looks nearly identical to the vic viper, and doesn't figure into the storyline of the gradius games at all.

Gungriffon Geona · 19th Jan 2006, 02:22 PM

It doesn't look like the Vic Viper, if you noticed.
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4...plussala23.jpg
Tell me, exactly HOW does a ship that looks close to an F-22 Raptor be confused with a ship that has a dual pointed front?
Also, it DOES figure into the gameplay quite a few times. any of the Gradius games that have a "select ship" mode (I don't mean "select loadout") has shown the red wonder. also, it makes plenty of showings in the Parodius games

Random Elite · 19th Jan 2006, 02:43 PM

Red team skin sorted already.

Are these gonna be alternatives to UT2004's spacefighters or to the Raptor and Cicada (and the dictation to their control)?

The Vic Viper does look like a streamlined (and thus better) Human Fighter.

Gungriffon Geona · 19th Jan 2006, 08:43 PM

aren't the starfighters used in only, what, 2 maps?

But I suppose it would fit best to have them replace the starfighters, seeing as both of the ships are never seen in an atmospheric setting, only in space with blobby monsters and machines.

Vailias · 19th Jan 2006, 10:21 PM

:shrug: fair enough. I got tired of the same basic levels after gradius 1-3 and lifeforce/salamander.

CheapAlert · 19th Jan 2006, 10:46 PM

tyrians better

unfortunately tyrian is made by a furry

so little in the shmup world

Gungriffon Geona · 19th Jan 2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CheapAlert

unfortunately tyrian is made by a furry

?

Might I ask where you got that info? that's something I've never heard before.

Gungriffon Geona · 22nd Jan 2006, 10:55 PM

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9590/vv21ik.png
yeah, about half way done with the rough model of Vic Viper, no pun intended. I cut the model in half so all I have to do when I'm done is mirror everything and it should be fine.
And do I need to add a crapload of poly-details just so it won't look low detailed, or should I leave the detail work to the texture? (I understand that bump-mapping and normal-mapping can make things better, right?) Because I know some asses are going to go nuts if I make it a simply functional model. (IE low-poly.)

Omega_Boost · 11th Feb 2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gungriffon Geona

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9590/vv21ik.png
yeah, about half way done with the rough model of Vic Viper, no pun intended. I cut the model in half so all I have to do when I'm done is mirror everything and it should be fine.
And do I need to add a crapload of poly-details just so it won't look low detailed, or should I leave the detail work to the texture? (I understand that bump-mapping and normal-mapping can make things better, right?) Because I know some asses are going to go nuts if I make it a simply functional model. (IE low-poly.)

Holy cow, its looking nice! Your my hero, you realize that? XD
Oh, and I certainly know much about the Lord British (Piloted by the person with the same name), personal best is the Salamander 1 Lord British. But of course, the Vic Viper pwns everything else.

Gungriffon Geona · 24th Feb 2006, 01:09 PM

Dear god, I had no Idea the Vic Vipier would be so bloody hard to model! oi, pain in the but if you ask me.

CheapAlert · 24th Feb 2006, 01:29 PM

what are you using, milkshape!? heh

Gungriffon Geona · 24th Feb 2006, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheapAlert

what are you using, milkshape!? heh

Dear God no. I've been using Wings 3D, since it has the simplest interface I've ever used, and it's very good for freeware. I will however try and bring it over to another more usable format (3DS or OBJ) when I get done. The program makes building Low-Poly models a breeze.
However, the VV is a pure and utter annoyance, as the ref pics of it are almost all different in some way.

18th Jan 2006, 11:18 PM	#1
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	Vic Viper and Lord British interest? No, not the ZOE Vic Viper, and not that stupid Ultima Online "Lord British". I'm talking about Gradius here, people. the two greatest ships ever created, who've survived 20 years in the gaming world and stood the test of time. even when the "hip" thing was to move all games to 3D gameplay, even if it meant screwing up the old formula. Well ya know, I wouldn't mind seeing these two great ships in UT2K4 Now I can model these two by myself, but I want to know if there is enough interest in this to get some help with the other parts of a small project like this. Anyone? __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS

19th Jan 2006, 12:52 AM	#2
Turret 49 Doomer at heart Join Date: Jun. 26th, 2004 Posts: 1,278	Similar thread (post #8 has some pictures of the Vic Viper) __________________

19th Jan 2006, 01:59 AM	#3
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	The fact that no one even knows that the Lord British even exists makes the difference. even though it won't actually matter, since I'm going to make the models whether anyone likes it or not, here is a site with ref pictures of both ships. __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS Last edited by Gungriffon Geona; 19th Jan 2006 at 02:04 AM.

19th Jan 2006, 12:54 PM	#5
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	Ack, I completely forgot the link! http://www.gamestone.co.uk/gradius/a...&artist=Konami __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS

19th Jan 2006, 02:22 PM	#7
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	It doesn't look like the Vic Viper, if you noticed. http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/4...plussala23.jpg Tell me, exactly HOW does a ship that looks close to an F-22 Raptor be confused with a ship that has a dual pointed front? Also, it DOES figure into the gameplay quite a few times. any of the Gradius games that have a "select ship" mode (I don't mean "select loadout") has shown the red wonder. also, it makes plenty of showings in the Parodius games __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS Last edited by Gungriffon Geona; 19th Jan 2006 at 02:26 PM.

19th Jan 2006, 01:55 PM	#6
Vailias <Creator-of-Warforms: Prime> Join Date: Aug. 9th, 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 483	course no one knows lord british exists, it only even figures into gameplay if you have a friend. It looks nearly identical to the vic viper, and doesn't figure into the storyline of the gradius games at all.

19th Jan 2006, 02:43 PM	#8
Random Elite Put your feet up and frag. Join Date: Jul. 9th, 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 1,029	Red team skin sorted already. Are these gonna be alternatives to UT2004's spacefighters or to the Raptor and Cicada (and the dictation to their control)? The Vic Viper does look like a streamlined (and thus better) Human Fighter.

19th Jan 2006, 08:43 PM	#9
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	aren't the starfighters used in only, what, 2 maps? But I suppose it would fit best to have them replace the starfighters, seeing as both of the ships are never seen in an atmospheric setting, only in space with blobby monsters and machines. __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS

19th Jan 2006, 10:21 PM	#10
Vailias <Creator-of-Warforms: Prime> Join Date: Aug. 9th, 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 483	:shrug: fair enough. I got tired of the same basic levels after gradius 1-3 and lifeforce/salamander.

19th Jan 2006, 10:46 PM	#11
CheapAlert ONSLOTFEST '94 FOREVER Join Date: Jul. 21st, 2003 Location: Above your computer. Posts: 554	tyrians better unfortunately tyrian is made by a furry so little in the shmup world __________________ ::current projects::

22nd Jan 2006, 10:55 PM	#13
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9590/vv21ik.png yeah, about half way done with the rough model of Vic Viper, no pun intended. I cut the model in half so all I have to do when I'm done is mirror everything and it should be fine. And do I need to add a crapload of poly-details just so it won't look low detailed, or should I leave the detail work to the texture? (I understand that bump-mapping and normal-mapping can make things better, right?) Because I know some asses are going to go nuts if I make it a simply functional model. (IE low-poly.) __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS

24th Feb 2006, 01:09 PM	#15
Gungriffon Geona fartdongs Join Date: Sep. 25th, 2005 Posts: 48	Dear god, I had no Idea the Vic Vipier would be so bloody hard to model! oi, pain in the but if you ask me. __________________ FLYING CARS WITH CRAB CLAWS

24th Feb 2006, 01:29 PM	#16
CheapAlert ONSLOTFEST '94 FOREVER Join Date: Jul. 21st, 2003 Location: Above your computer. Posts: 554	what are you using, milkshape!? heh __________________ ::current projects::

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