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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 02:46 PM   #1
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CompetitiveONS - New Gametype

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Adjustable Node Control Interval {Default = 10sec}
Adjustable Points for Node Control {Default = 1.5}
Option to award points for optional side nodes {Default = False}
Adjustable Points for Power Core Destruction {Default = 50}
Adjustable Power Core Health {Default = 2000}
Option to switch sides after core destroyed {Default = False}
Option to allow Tie Games {Default = True}

What it does: you score 1.5 points per 10 seconds, per node you hold. This does not count for option nodes, but it does count for disconnected draining nodes. The example I like is that if you have both Tank nodes at Cross, but you've lost your Prime, while they hold their Pime and Center; you're still even.

Cores have the same damage value as nodes, this will promote faster gameplay and more rounds. If you destory a core you earn 50 points. Once destoryed a new round will begin in 10 seconds (with countdown "New round in, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1).

This is a new, still unnamed, game type. Suggestions there are welcome. Also, the actual rate of scoring, value, core value, etc is all still open.

By doing this, a tie game would be impossibly rare. So, you can now play both sides per Euro rules without the risk of a tie. Close games will seem a lot more close, and rapes will seem a lot worst. This is good and bad, but CAL like a system that demonstrates an appropriate gap. All current CAL games are one map, both sides. This also suits that style of play.

Fundamentally, all the core gameplay of ONS is untouched. What is touched however is that you no longer have a two minute game that's followed by a ****ty ten minute end game. Teams can and will want to rush the end game forcing the new round. Twenty minutes of non-stop action.

Now, the issues outstanding are as follows:
-Time. Should it be 20? 12 at the PL works well, but the PL's 12 is based on the fact that you have standard ONS. 20 minutes per side is common for TDM, CS:S, and other games.
-Score, 1.5 per 10 sec + 50 core? Plays well, but the core value maybe a little high. But as you play both sides you either control or you don't. I'm thinking core value at 50, but 1.5 per 5 rather than 10.

Outstanding bugs/issues/to-dos:
-Power-ups hold to the clock, they don't restart for new rounds.
-Gametype defaults at 2 players
-Create a system that will flip teams and their score after 20 minutes. Also dump back into warm-up. This way you can play seamlessly. May be impossible.

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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 02:59 PM   #2
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i have an idea for a name: Domination.
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 07:57 PM   #3
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i have an idea for a name: Domination.
Yeah, I was just gonna say that it sounds an awful lot like DOM from the original UT. Could be a lot of fun, but I'll have to wait and see.
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omgwtfzaffle stop calling it ONSDOM RGR

It SOUNDS similar to DDOM, but its more fun than normal ons imo, try it out.
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 08:25 PM   #5
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 09:29 PM   #6
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omgwtfzaffle stop calling it ONSDOM RGR

It SOUNDS similar to DDOM, but its more fun than normal ons imo, try it out.
DOM, not DDOM. Does sound cool though.
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Old 3rd Jan 2006, 11:47 PM   #7
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I'd call it Slaughter.
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 01:03 AM   #8
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I'd call it Slaughter.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 01:33 AM   #9
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This is a new, still unnamed, game type. Suggestions there are welcome.
I'd call it VDOM...
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 01:46 AM   #10
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50 points for destroying the core? I think that's a little over the top. I think 5 is a better number.
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 02:58 AM   #11
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So how is this a 'competitive' variant of ONS ???
Does it 'competitive' mean the modified variant sucks, but the creators only think it doesn't ?
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 03:08 AM   #12
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Sounds like a mix of DOM and ONS, I`d go in one certain direction. I have vehicle flag domination and ONS (surprise!) that`s enough fo rthe mom.

maybe if you get rid of destroyable cores?
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 03:34 AM   #13
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It's "competitive" because the creator says so.
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Players should be rewarded for making a team effort and not just hogging the flag for example. Your score in the end should reflect your contribution and not just how many frags you have made in game types other than DM or TDM. i like the idea of this gametype but it sounds like it needs to go a few steps further to reward players.
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 08:18 AM   #15
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First release can be found here:

http://www.teamk1.com/onslaught/viewtopic.php?t=1007

It has a modified scoring structure from the beta release. I would sugget playing several maps with the mutator before making asumptions/conclusions. Most people that have played it prefer it over Epic's scoring system.
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Our friends at Pure certainly have an interesting take on what it takes to make a good game.
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Edit: There should be a max score that a team can get. This max score would get smaller as the game drags on. So a team would want to end the game faster, so the score will be higher.

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Old 4th Jan 2006, 12:48 PM   #18
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Actually, ONS out of the box has a number of limitations as a competitive game type, and if you don't know what they are, then you haven't really played it competitively. Imo there's nothing wrong with someone trying to make the game better for a competitive environment.

Yeesh, sometimes the people here on BU are just as idiotic towards the competitive community as certain doorknobs from the competitive community are towards people who just prefer to pub.

Knee-jerk reactions, anyone?
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Old 4th Jan 2006, 02:55 PM   #19
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I didn't say it was a good mod, and neither did Sofaking. You need to try it out for yourself to see if you like it or not. It certainly does make up for a number of things the ONS community wants in stock ONS.

Huggy: Pure and Sofaking are two different affiliations. Its not like Sabotage or Hooloovoo helped make this mod.

Fro: good points... but... err.... don't you uh... NOT PLAY ONS. YEAH THAT'S RIGHT GTFO
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Hmm, I thought SofaKing was in Pure.
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