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Old 27th Nov 2005, 10:23 PM   #1
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Civ 4 via D2D

I downloaded Civ4 via D2D, now D2D requires a different patch from the retail version, so as yet I CANNOT play online... Doesnt that suck??????

Civ4 seems great though
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Old 27th Nov 2005, 11:39 PM   #2
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I played the Demo. It was fun but it felt very much like Civ3 with a graphics overhaul. Research tech, build wonders, make peace, win. I much preferred Alpha Centauri where peace was not an option because you had psychos like Ming the Merciless who wanted to conquer the world despite your peaceful federation with the other nations. Then he would go off with Santiago, that vile bulldog, and proceed to lay waste to the world while you tried to fend them off with the combined might of your alliance and grav tanks with graviton cannons...

Civilization seems boring in comparison. Also, I could not find a slider to delay tech research. What's the point of researching Samurai when Riflemen are just around the corner. If they slowed the game down so that you could actually Fight with your units for 50 years... Instead of having them made obsolete before your first unit is made. That could be just me though... I focused on research and plowed into the Renaissance when my opponents were still learning to draw maps. Good thing they didn't know how to swim to my island. Mwa ha ha ha. Wow, I went way off track.

Hope you enjoy Civ 4!
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 01:30 AM   #3
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Civ4 is pretty cool. Not that much different from Civ3 but why break a winning concept. I agree with you UN17 on that speed issue. The balance between tech research and building units is not perfect atleast on that default speed. The epic speed setting is better but still not slow enough for my taste. There are several mods in the works atm that address these issues though. One big plus for civ4 is the moddability. More or less anything can be tweaked or changed by xml and pyton files. Wish I had more time to play games...as Civ4 takes a lot of time

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Old 28th Nov 2005, 04:04 AM   #4
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A spearman killed my gunship.
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 05:08 PM   #5
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Civilization seems boring in comparison. Also, I could not find a slider to delay tech research. ...
Right at the start of the game there's a setting for 'speed'. Select 'Epic' if you want not as 'fast' as the standard game.

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A spearman killed my gunship.
Those are mighty big rocks they're throwing

Besides ... only time you'll see a spearman kill a gunship is if you're fighting them at with a disadvantage (ie : low health & equal or worse odds).
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 11:43 PM   #6
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"A spearman killed my gunship."

lol

I really enjoy the Civ games, but that type of stuff always kinda urked me. I always try to justify such things as a victory based on tactics rather than technology. There are a number of real situations where similar stuff has happened. One that jumps to find dealt with early britsh troops (musket era) being wiped out by an equal number of tribal indians ( i think in africa ). Despite the fact that the British had setup a camp and had it fortified they were killed by a group of men with spears and knives in a straight up fight.

How.

The indians attacked at night, and the panicing British tried to lay down surpressive fire into the general direction of the attackers. Unfortunatly thier musket rifles created a smoke screen which combined with the dark completely blinded them. The indians closed the gap where they had the better mele weaponary, and it was a done deal.

but... taking down a chopper with a stick? the only tactic i could think of doing would be to try and put a spear into the tail rotor....
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 11:47 PM   #7
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Bombers can be shot down by spearmen in Civilisation 3 I believe, and I know people whose wooden warships not only survived a direct hit from a nuclear weapon, but they were barely scratched.
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Old 28th Nov 2005, 11:47 PM   #8
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but... taking down a chopper with a stick?
Sleep with the pilot's wife.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 04:55 AM   #9
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Bombers can be shot down by spearmen in Civilisation 3 I believe.
They can't. Don't know about other Civilization games but in Civ III bombers can only be brought down by surface to air weapons [like the SAM sites or the mobile flak] and interfering fighters.
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 05:50 AM   #10
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If the chopper was an Apache, maybe it fell down on its own
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 08:51 AM   #11
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Bombers cant be hurt by ground units in Civ 4 either, but I havent had a gunship yet..
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Old 29th Nov 2005, 10:55 PM   #12
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1.09 Civ patch released by D2D (At last!!!)
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 03:47 AM   #13
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A heavily fortified spearman can have a strength of around 15, whilst a gunship will only have a strength of 20 or so.
Maybe they fixed it in a later patch (I only played 1.0) but even without any bonuses the spearman still has a what 20% chance to hit? (5 vs 20)
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 08:26 AM   #14
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I am a Civ fanatic....i bought the new Civ 4. I havent played it yet but i ran through the manual. It seems that this time around an veteren spearman cant take out my german panzer. From what I understand, the damage is more like a percent basis. The sperman will still hit the tank, but will do much less damage.
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 08:39 AM   #15
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Damn, network games are just silly.. I played for like 8 ****ing hours straight!!!
Its insane, I hardly had time to leave the computer to piss.. I started playing at 2pm and finished at 10pm (and even then I quit early).. Great game, but I dont have time for that
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Old 30th Nov 2005, 11:51 AM   #16
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Yeah thats the thing about civ, unless you plan on playing on a small map with few enemies, plan to at least waste about 17 hours of your day.
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Old 1st Dec 2005, 05:07 PM   #17
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Any of you nerds wanna get together for a play by mail game?
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Oh jeez. As if 'epic' games wern't long enough...PBEM? Yeesh!
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Old 2nd Dec 2005, 05:46 AM   #19
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perhaps they got weapon upgrades. Like rps. Rocket propelled spears.

Civ4 is extremely fun. It has problems running on my computer though. Gonna reinstall windows quite soon anyway.
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