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Old 10th May 2000, 02:22 AM   #1
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As you have probably realised by now, the debate on the guilt or otherwise of a-nuke was decided some time ago. The evidence was overwhelming, and as a consequence PuF and other llamahunters see him as a legitimate target. Because of your association with him, your whole clan is also a target, and generally regarded as a joke, no matter how good you all are.

IT DOES'NT HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT. Why not just speak to the guy and suggests he APOLOGISES. Posts on this forum and just says "I'M SORRY, I WON'T DO IT AGAIN !!". Your recent posts suggest he is now playing fair after having lost admin control of the server. With an apology, PuFfers would leave him alone, and after a suitable probation period, I'm sure Blow_Smoke and the others would consider his removal from Llamafarm. The rest of the clan too, of course.

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Old 10th May 2000, 05:15 PM   #2
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Old 12th May 2000, 01:06 AM   #3
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hmm maybe you are right herberston....
but why should i post such a topic with im sorry, i wont do it again?
whats the sense?
and yes a_nuke had lost admincontrol over the server...no MNSG have got the admincontrol they all(include me) have to play like normal players..and the only reason why the speed is at 150% is: the MNSG ppl dont like to play that slow on 100% thats all..

hmm removal from the llanmerfarm..hehe sounds nice but btw i still like the lamas..(the animals i mean) but to be removed there couldnt be wrong...

so on i hope the suggestions against (MNSG) will end in the nearest future....

so long..

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Old 12th May 2000, 04:44 AM   #4
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No, I meant a-nuke posts the apology, not you. Sorry if it wasn't clear. As far as I know, you personally have nothing to apologise for.

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Old 12th May 2000, 08:07 AM   #5
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Yup Deadbrother, you aren't in the farm, a_nuke is with {mnsg} clan.
The only thing you done is to clear mnsg's and a_nukes name, and that's isn't Llame, but heroic in my view.
And i don't have an grudge against you deathbrother, you done nothing wrong, at least nothing i know of.
The only thing is with me, and most PuFFers a_nuke pissed us a bit too much off, and due the fact he is associated with mnsg, everyone who has that clan tag, will have so acceptace trouble.

And i am glad to hear a_nuke lost his control of the server, someone with a doubtfull reputation as he, may not controle a public/clan server.

And stil it's my tought to, if a_nuke appoligizes here, and sticked around a while to prove himself changed, we all change attidutes towards him, and remove him from the farm (as cattle, becourse you all like animals, you may stick around then to pet the other Llama's )


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Old 12th May 2000, 08:51 AM   #6
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That is not true, deathbrother. When I visited your server this week with a few friends both you and a_nuke played with white names all game long, and kicking zulg[f] 3 times for just being better then you. I was playing as LillSnoppis.

The fact that you will kick everyone who is beating you is extremely lame, but I guess that is the only way you can maintain the illustion that you are good players...

A short sidenote: A_nuke was asked by a newbie (non aliasing player) when we were there "Are you the best player in the world?" and answered "I don't know, maybe". Best laugh I have had in ages. I hope he isnt serious. Considering that everyone else has a much higher ping and 10-20% packetloss (and of course no admin abilities) and no experience with 150% speed (150% speed and huge packetloss makes the combo hard to pull off most of the time, but a_nuke seems to wander right into them all the time) when playing on that server, if a_nuke truly was the best player in the world he would completely dominate, but as soon as there are a few decent players in the other team he loses, and loses big.

[MNSG) seem to think that ppl will look up to them if they are ranked highly, and don't realize that respect in the UT community comes from playing fair and hard. Sad really.
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Old 12th May 2000, 08:55 AM   #7
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well sh!t on me, thanks for pointing that our Fred.

Booooooo to a_nuke!! A_Nuke will forever be in the Llama farm if i have any say in it!


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Old 12th May 2000, 09:11 AM   #8
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wANK, i am know here as hard against Llama's if you'r acting Llame and i got prove, you'r on the farm, without any moral hesitation, but i'm fair enough, whem someone prove to me/us that he really is sorry, and show's that he changes, then i am fair enough to say he is of the farm.

You can't keep people detentioned for life for pitty theft. Only replulsive types.
And if a_nuke won't change (and this i believe sooner) he stay's on the farm without any remorse, and as long the mnsg clan agree's with a_nukes behaveiour, they deserve an spot on the farm too without any hesitation form my side.


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Old 12th May 2000, 09:17 AM   #9
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I don't think for one minute A_nuke should be removed from the llama farm.
llama hunt night (which was only 2 weeks ago btw) a few of us went to his server, I launched a he had godlike so i thought i should be the one to end it so i launched a redeemer at him when he came into the base and grabbed the flag. I hit him at almost point blank range with it and was killed myself.
A_nuke however ran off and capped it. If that isnt cheating to boost his stats i don't know what is.


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Old 12th May 2000, 09:23 AM   #10
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Sorry blow you must have posted that while i was typing.
I agree entirly with blow.. if his clan agrees his behavior is acceptable they should stay on the farm

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Old 12th May 2000, 09:24 AM   #11
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I am surprised to read Deathbrothers previous posts about us bad clanners coming in and playing under alias, and hurting their stats (of course if they played on other servers they would know that aliasing is pretty common on other servers too).

He said it wasn't fair and it was 2 vs 5. That is a bunch of bs. The teams where even (5 vs 5 and some good aliasing players on nukes and deathbrothers team too) and if deathbrother hadn't been so busy kicking ppl from the other team all the time, he might have helped his team with some caps and flag kills.

Fact of the matter is that a_nuke and deathbrother almost always stack the teams against the newbies that always play there. Check out the last 20 games of each of them to get an idea of what I am talking about, one team having an efficiency of 70+% while the other has 20+% is not the exception, it is the norm there. So to hear them cry about uneven teams is really sad. And they do this just to get high in the rankings, they are pathetic.

Deathbrother and nuke are so unused to meeting good players that they get completely paranoid when some enter their server and rack up a few quick caps while they use the same strategy as always, redeemer whoring and patroling the spawnpoints with the RL.

btw here is the game I was talking about earlier, teams were totally stacked against zulg before I entered, but of course a_nuke and deathbrother didn't lift a finger to even the teams. Just business as usual on that server, I reckon. And you wonder why good players don't like to play on your server (except to mess up your stats ).
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Old 12th May 2000, 09:58 AM   #12
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It's quite interesting to check out the in-depth stats on this guy (a_nuke). If you look at his pickups you notice that he has picked up more redeemers than medboxes. If that isn't weird then I don't know what is.

Most top players have the medbox as the most picked up item and the redeemer is quite low on their list. And overall his stats seems fishy somehow.

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Old 12th May 2000, 12:19 PM   #13
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i can advice a_nuke only this




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Old 12th May 2000, 12:32 PM   #14
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Llamas spit and get poop everywhere. And not in a fun/cute way like monkeys.

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Old 12th May 2000, 04:53 PM   #15
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P.S, Deathbrother,

Sorry, but I have to ask this - don't you get bored of Facing Worlds ? It ain't a bad map, but don't you want a change sometimes ? I bit of Lava_Giant perhaps, or Coret ? Or even the odd game of DM or LMS ?

Just wondering.........


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Old 12th May 2000, 05:05 PM   #16
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As I have said on once on GT Games Forums, once you are in the Llama Farm, death is your only way out

However, should a_nuke publicly apologise for his past actions and after we are satisfied he is backing this up with actions, then I will update his llama entry acordingly. But he and MNSG will remain in the Farm.


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Old 12th May 2000, 07:35 PM   #17
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What's the address of their server?? I would personally like to check it out myself... I'd love to take some screenies of him cheating his *** off, because I hate llamas as much as the next person!!!
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Old 13th May 2000, 11:47 AM   #18
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hi all again....

the way you particulary think maybe not the right one...
the game everyone is talking about was fair if u look at the ngworldstats...but just take a look on the kills of the other players on our side, because they dont kill anyone and just stay around...but ive just saied this few postings ago...
and i wont do that once more..

so u think anuke and me have server abilities..?? i think u havent looked right on the screen...wheter /me than anuke have some of them...the server stands in our city yeah right...because we have to update and restart it twice a week, but noone knows the password, because a guy who isnt in our clan and dont play UT launches the server for us..and we have eactly tol him to type a pw in whitch we cant know..so he have done it and noone knows it..no servercontrols for all of us...
and to the part u all think iam lame and not good enough to play vs one of u..
i still think iam not very good but i play often and if u want to play a game vs me 1 vs 1 or something its ok...no problem..just contact me on ICQ (MNSG)Deathbrother and tell me the time .. and the date...
but realize i will not play on a server whitch runs not on 135-150% gamespeed .. its to boring and not fast enough
we can ply on our server...ithout anuke and so on...just 1 vs 1...your ping is much better to our server than my ping was to your servers...thats also the reason why i lay that less on other servers..i only have the disconnect sign and a piing over 500 whitch is not playable...
and hertston...
yup u r right sometimes face is getting boring but then i use my second name and get to other servers in europe and i also was good there i think...but its not that funny without that speed...and with that ping(over400)..
but i think you hertston are a good guy...
can we meet at ICQ i want your UIN plz...

so its also easier to arrange a game..
and also to fredrick...

the game you have posted whats wrong with it? i still know that the teams were uneven and so it yould not be fair...but what shell we do?? we have saied it some times but noone changes...what shell we do..and btw the (COESS)Clan is a clan of newbies...so u cant say its possible with our players to win..but its ok we stayed there and fight no problem but (C4)Joker who is a damn good player alsways captured the flag he wouldnt kill players who followed him or something like that and the other players only stayed in front of our base to kill resawnd players..so that was the game but we dont leave we kill many players and true we lost the match but what shell we do?
so forget the game...lets play others
to renew the knowledge..

to (KTSA) our ip is 194.177.137.118
and i think i can remeber you with such members were there to play with/against us...
but plz whatever if u want to play add me on ICQ and tell me i mostly have time to play..

so long i hope to get a clear discussion...
and a few good games...

btw to be on the llamer farm doesnt matter..its only your decision
not every guy thinks so..so lets be polite and play fair...

and take a look at ths games ok?
http://www3.ut.ngworldstats.com/fcgi...s=958145695077
http://www3.ut.ngworldstats.com/fcgi...s=958146307929
http://www3.ut.ngworldstats.com/fcgi...s=958146971883

if u checked out that games you will see that the best player on this world have plyed against ech other..but take a look at the kills especially who killed whom how often..

so guys thats all ive to say and again you have to excuse me for my spelling...

so in future i hopw for a few games..

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Old 13th May 2000, 11:52 AM   #19
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No one, and NO ONE will play on 1on1 with you at 135% to 150% speed and reconize you'r victory, simply 100% gamespeed is the standard where all skill is measured on.
I wasted also the best players in the world at 150 200% game speed, only people with LANs play such games often for FUN.
You invitement for 1on1 games allway's remind me of this section of the article
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR>Step 6: Pick a Game

You can't just play any game as a clan of Wankers. Regular Quake 3 deathmatch is for pansies. In order to truly show off your mad skilz, you need to dominate in a game that nobody else ever plays. Pick a mod that nobody really plays and that there are never any servers for. That way you can't be contradicted when your web pages claims that you are "The undisputed champion of Choke the Monkey (version 2.11) for Quake 3". If you can't find any Choke the Monkey servers, create one (remember, all true wankers have cable modems or ISDN lines), play a few games, then crown yourselves the grand champions of the world. Then go play some deathmatch.
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Read my articles pages on the LlamaFarm the topic How to Form Elite Online. Many points in that sounds like mnsg and a_nuke.
http://members.xoom.com/selerox/wanker_clan.html

I if i was assiosiated with that aritcle, i shamed my arse off


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Old 13th May 2000, 12:06 PM   #20
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k blown_smoke ...maxbe its posibile that we could play a game in even teams against each other on another server but first show me the server and ill go there to test it..but iw ill not play under deathbrother ill ue another nik with a 900er rating if u want to use ngstats...if not tell me and ill disable them

so i hope to play..and iam sure you will win because i rearly play 100% only 3-5games in one month...
but ill do it if u want...so lets try to find a server
tell me what server u want to and ill test it and so on....

i hope to make this posibile...

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