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Old 28th Jan 2005, 10:27 AM   #1
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genocides

The top ten of genocides of this century:

10. Pakistan, a province what's now Bangladesh (1971): a record, 1.500.000 in 267 days under command of Yahya Khan (what's in a name).
9. Poland (1945-1948): 1.585.000 of the remaining germans in poland, so it seems history is written by the winners.
8. Communist vietnam (1945-1987): 1.678.000 victims (war casualties not included).
7. Turkey (1909 - 1918): a calculated (purely racist) genocide on the Armenians -> 1.883.000 . This action inspired Hitler himself, so it seems.
6. Cambodja under Khmer Rouge regime: 2.000.000
5. Fascist Japan (1936-1945): 6.000.000
4. Nationalistic China (1928-1949): Tjiang Kai-sjek and alike caused +10.000.000 deaths.
3. The third reich: Doens't need any introduction. +20.000.000 jews.
2. Communist China: Mao Tse-tung did better: 35.000.000.

And the big champions:
1. the Sovjet-Union: 62.000.000



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Old 28th Jan 2005, 05:32 PM   #2
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Well, I guess I'll have to try harder.

The Polish one is interesting.
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Old 28th Jan 2005, 09:05 PM   #3
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I think those are attempted genocides. Genocide means to wipe out an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group, and I doubt they got everybody. Unless they did succeed in some instances in getting everybody.
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 05:31 AM   #4
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 06:13 AM   #5
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Genocide means to wipe out an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group
Where do you get the idea that it has to be all? It just means deliberately killing the members of a national, racial, political or ethnic group. And it is accepted that it has to happen on a large scale for the term to be applicable, I believe, but not all.

It if meant all, it would have to be called extinction.
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 09:44 AM   #6
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Genocide is not for rookies.
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 09:55 AM   #7
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Where do you get the idea that it has to be all? It just means deliberately killing the members of a national, racial, political or ethnic group. And it is accepted that it has to happen on a large scale for the term to be applicable, I believe, but not all.

It if meant all, it would have to be called extinction.

He prolly got that idea from here http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=genocide

It's much like the word suicide. You have not commited suicide unless you succeed in killing yourself. If you're still alive, you have just attempted suicide. If there are any Jews left, Hitler attempted genocide.
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He prolly should have looked here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

Hey, what's insecticide? It has to kill ALL insects, right? Otherwise, it's only attempted insecticide. Hitler didn't attempt but commit genocide.
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Old 29th Jan 2005, 07:06 PM   #11
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Stop the anti-semantic comments.
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Where do you get the idea that it has to be all? It just means deliberately killing the members of a national, racial, political or ethnic group. And it is accepted that it has to happen on a large scale for the term to be applicable, I believe, but not all.

It if meant all, it would have to be called extinction.
I've always understood it to mean all.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Genocide

Note the word "entire" in the definition. Entire means all.
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Stop the anti-semantic comments.
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