Serverpackages + Map-Specific Mutators problems

NotoriousBIC · Aug 16, 2004

I already posted about this on the Atari-boards.
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5446329
Just posting here for completeness' sake.

Here's the lowdown.

1) Since upgrading to 3270, I'm having a new problem.
I have several DummyMuts in use with corresponding serverpackages in the ut2vote43.ini
Now regardless of which DummyMut is loaded (A through Z) ut2vote43 will only add the serverpackage that corresponds to the DummyMut that's first in the list.
So effectively I can only use 1 mod now.

2) This is some more info regarding my prior map-specific package problem.
It now seems I can't load any mutator using DM-MapName?mutator=mutator.class in the maplistAT ALL.
I find this particularly odd, since I remember doing this succesful in the past.
Here are links to a few logs of my attempts:
Test with LowGrav mutator
Test with DummyMut mutator

Could it be that the patch has borked things up?

ProAsm · Aug 16, 2004

The Serverpackages problem is under discussion atm on our developement forum and yes it could be patch 3270 as its screwed our brightskins up a bit also.

The problem with the Map Mutator I will look into asap as I think thats because the mut gets loaded before UT2Vote as seen in your logs.

NotoriousBIC · Aug 16, 2004

Well if you look a little further in the logs you'll see that the mutator doesn't get loaded at all:

Code:

Log: Server switch level: CTF-PhaseShift?Mutator=DummyMut.DummyMutC?Game=XGame.xCTFGame?Mutator=UT2Vote43.UT2Vote?yaddayadda

and a little bit further:

Code:

ScriptLog: Mutators UT2Vote43.UT2Vote

If the DummyMut was loaded it should've been listed there.

tdw-socke · Aug 17, 2004

will test this today...

tdw-socke · Aug 17, 2004

notorius, your log shows this:

Log: Server switch level: CTF-PhaseShift?Mutator=DummyMut.DummyMutC?Game=XGame.xCTFGame?Mutator=UT2Vote43.UT2Vote?MaxLives=0.....

looks somehow wired to me

the question is, did you add 2 ?mutator-sections on your own, or did ut2vote it, or was it the patch?

maybe you could link your inis and startup-script somewhere?

NotoriousBIC · Aug 17, 2004

Ah yes, ProAsm already knows, but I understand that's not clear in here.

What I'm trying to do is add map-specific mutators by adding ?mutator=mutator.class behind the mapname in the maplist.
The same thing with the double mutator entry happens with the LowGrav example.

UT2Vote43.ini

Code:

[UT2Vote43.UT2VoteGameTypes]
GameType=(GameName="Capture the Flag",HideVote=False,Clan=True,RequiredPlayers=1,MapLimits=0,ServerName="Bic's CTF Server",UseMapList=True,DefaultMap="CTF-Maul",MapPrefix="CTF",GameClass="XGame.xCTFGame",Mutators="None",Commands="?MaxLives=0?GoalScore=5?TimeLimit=20?MinPlayers=4?MaxPlayers=16?MaxSpectators=2?Translocator=True?Weaponstay=True?BalanceTeams=True?ForceRespawn=False?PlayersMustBeReady=False?Tournament=0?GameStats=True?GameSpeed=1.00?FF=0?NumBots=1?Difficulty=4")

[UT2Vote43.UT2VotePackages]
Packages=(MutClassName="DummyMut.DummyMutC",ServerPackages="PhaseShift")

server.ini

Code:

[DefaultCTF MaplistRecord]
DefaultMaps=CTF-PhaseShift?Mutator=DummyMut.DummyMutC

I can do this for any other mutator, map and gametype, but the same thing happens.
I remember doing this in the past with success. Unfortunately I'm not sure with which versions of UT and UT2Vote that was. Probably 3236 and UT2Vote42.
I'm currently on 3270 and UT2Vote43. I'll try downgrading today and see what happens.

tdw-socke · Aug 17, 2004

could you also try it with something else but a dummy-mutator? just another mutator?

NotoriousBIC · Aug 17, 2004

NotoriousBIC said:
Test with LowGrav mutator

Already did :tup:

tdw-socke · Aug 17, 2004

thx, i have an idea, but pro is the pro

*discussing*

NotoriousBIC · Aug 17, 2004

Cool, I hope you guys can figure it out.

Frankly, the problem with only the package first in list getting loaded is a bigger problem for me, since it means I can only have 1 mod on the server currently.

NotoriousBIC · Aug 17, 2004

Ok, now I'm at a complete loss.

I decided to do a complete re-install of the server today. Completely from the ground up. However I upgraded up to 3236 and UT2Vote42. Then I tried the same tests as with the problems on the previous setup and *bang*!
Same thing happens

I've succesfully run CarBall and Jailbreak side-by-side in the UT2Vote config with no problems. So I have no clue whatsoever what's causing this

ProAsm · Aug 18, 2004

I've succesfully run CarBall and Jailbreak side-by-side in the UT2Vote config with no problems. So I have no clue whatsoever what's causing this

Are you saying there is no problem now or is it still there ?

NotoriousBIC · Aug 18, 2004

Nope it's still there

ProAsm · Aug 19, 2004

Ok regarding the map-specific Mutators.

I cannot fault this as it works 100% here and now matter how I juggle the mutators or commands it works right everytime.

Please double check your setup and mutators that could possibly interfere with UT2Vote like UTComp for instance that takes command of all Replications.

In my DeathMatch Gamestring - UseMapList=True
In my UT2004.ini file for the test map - DM-Antalus
[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
Maps=DM-Antalus?Mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav

My logs when the map switches:

Code:

Log: Server switch level: DM-Antalus?Game=XGame.xDeathMatch?Mutator=UT2Vote44B6.UT2Vote,UnrealGame.MutLowGrav

No matter what I did I could not get it so that the UnrealGame.MutLowGrav loaded before UT2Vote like it did in your logs.

Another thing, in you log you have:

Code:

Log: Server switch level: CTF-PhaseShift?Mutator=DummyMut.DummyMutC?Game=XGame.xCTFGame?Mutator=UT2Vote43.UT2Vote?yaddayadda

It is not possible for UT2Vote to create a string like that because it will only allow the phrase "?Mutator=" once in any commandstring and yours has 2 so some other mutator besides UT2Vote is interfering with the map switch.
There should be a log entry just before that one which is the one that counts, ie in my example:

Code:

UT2Vote: 18:40:08 - ServerSwitchLevel - ClientMap = DM-Antalus | CommandLine = DM-Antalus?Game=XGame.xDeathMatch?Mutator=UT2Vote44B6.UT2Vote,UnrealGame.MutLowGrav

Please try and create and make detailed notes of the sequence to reproduce the problem you are experiencing as we cannot produce it here.

NotoriousBIC · Aug 19, 2004

I found the problem! Finally!

Here's what happens: (windows server 3270 with UT2Vote43)
If the map with the mutator is the first of it's gametype being switched to, the mutator won't load. If you manually restart the map the mutator does get loaded.

You can try it yourself: Just stick ?mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav behind a CTF map (or any other that isn't in your default gametype) and directly switch to that map after the server has started up. The mutator won't get loaded, but it WILL get loaded if you then restart the map.

So that's what was going wrong on my end. I started up in DM and then switched to CTF-Phaseshift.
I guess then that this a little bug that needs squashing. :tup:

Any word on the DummyMut problem? That's a showstopper currently

ProAsm · Aug 19, 2004

You can try it yourself: Just stick ?mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav behind a CTF map (or any other that isn't in your default gametype) and directly switch to that map after the server has started up. The mutator won't get loaded, but it WILL get loaded if you then restart the map.

When you say switch directly to that map you mean as Admin.
Also the server must not start in my defaultgame - sorry but you lost me here.

Ok regarding the DummyMut problem.
There is something that 3270 has done here but I just cannot put my finger on it but seeing that the Map-specific Mutators were not getting loaded via the UT2Vote ServerPackages routine I just decided to re-design the whole way the Map-specific Mutators as well as the Serverpackages work as they are related in UT2Vote.
Also up until now any Mutator you had in the UT2VotePackages also had to be in the UT2VoteMutators.
Now you can have the Mutator anywhere and provided its in the UT2VotePackages it will get written to the Serverpackages.
Also all Packages found in UT2VotePackages will now be removed after every level and re-added on the next level.
This is so no packages get left behind incase the Admin did an 'outside' switch, the server crashed for some reason or the Admin just exited the Server while several Packages were still loaded.

Still testing though but all seems ok

NotoriousBIC · Aug 19, 2004

step 1: put ?mutator=UnrealGame.MutLowGrav behind (for example) CTF-Smote in the maplist
step 2: make sure your server is NOT currently in the CTF gametype
step 3: switch to CTF with either ingame vote (normal, not as admin) or WebAdmin
step 4: switch to CTF-Smote with either the ingame vote or the WebAdmin
step 5: restart CTF-Smote (again either vote or WebAdmin)
step 6: check log and note that the mutator DIDN'T get loaded the first time but DID the second time.

Good to hear about your solution of the other problems :tup:
Could I perhaps test the newest version? I seem to be the only one with these 'unique' problems :lol:

ProAsm · Aug 20, 2004

Ahhh yes, I see what its doing and there is nothing we can do about it

You are playing DeathMatch with CTF maps enabled.
This is an unfair situation as the game is DeathMatch and not Capture the Flag.
The maplist for DeathMatch is:
[XInterface.MapListDeathMatch]
Here it will not find any CTF maps so it will load the CTF maps that are in the maps folder which do not have any Mutators.
If you are getting a CTF map to load a Mutator in another GameType, count yourself very lucky as its just not designed to do that.

UT2Vote was NEVER designed to mix maps, this is a special favour we added in 42 but to add mutators and commands to them as well is going somewhat over the top and is forbidden

NotoriousBIC · Aug 20, 2004

Nope, I'm not loading a CTF map in DeathMatch. I'm doing exactly as I describe in my steps.
You can try it and look for yourself.

ProAsm · Aug 21, 2004

Ok I see the problem and that will happen as although you have selected a new game, CTF in this case, the MapList is still whatever the currentgame is, ie DeathMatch for instance.
There is no way UT2004 will allow me to load 2 Maplists as in this case a DM and a CTF one.
Thats why when you restart that map it works because now you are actually in a CTFGame.

btw Beta 6 is out.
Check ya pm.

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