ps2 Unreal Games?

Kailonn · 25th Jul 2004, 09:49 PM

What are the games for the ps2 that are unreal? (ut also) I've been looking but..

MeStinkBAD · 6th Aug 2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kailonn

What are the games for the ps2 that are unreal? (ut also) I've been looking but..

Yeah the original UT...

*Sir_Brizz* · 6th Aug 2004, 05:26 PM

and probably nothing else. the system can't handle the last generation of graphics, how would it be able to handle the next?

RaptoR · 11th Aug 2004, 07:08 PM

There were rumours of a game called Unreal Assault for the PS2, but that's been canned now, if it even existed at all.

As Brizz said, the PS2 struggles to handle the original UT, so there's no way it'll be able to handle UT2004-level titles.

cole_bie · 13th Aug 2004, 07:28 PM

i think the ps2 could easily handle it. game designers are really pushing the limits of the ps2 and games are coming out that more and more resemble xbox games such as mercanaries.

*Sir_Brizz* · 13th Aug 2004, 11:20 PM

I'm afraid not.

cole_bie · 20th Aug 2004, 11:18 AM

IM AFRAID SO!

SludgeX · 22nd Aug 2004, 01:42 PM

While the PS2 is a great system (it's my console of choice...), I must agree with RaptoR and Brizz on this one.

The PlayStation2 just doesn't have the ability to push the number of polygons that current Unreal games require.

The only Unreal game for the PS2 is the original UT. But I can't recommend it because it's a pretty shoddy port.

Uncle_Bob · 23rd Aug 2004, 06:10 AM

Dues Ex is on PS2, that uses the unreal engine. I haven't played it but its suposed to be a bit jerky.

Far Cry is coming out on PS2 and it has really advanced graphics. It will probably scaled down loads in the detail department though.

Hourences · 25th Aug 2004, 05:07 AM

ps2 can sometimes handle a higher polycount than the avg ut2004 level on a normal modern pc can
polycount isnt the problem, memory use and the way its calculated and stored is
unreal wasnt build with ps2 and its memory/cpu architecture in mind so its really bad in drawing and storing things on it sufficiently
renderware engine and stuff are better for ps2

there are multiple u ps2 titles in dev atm tho

Turboman · 26th Aug 2004, 11:54 AM

unreal engine 2 does run on the ps2 without problems, splinter cell and XIII use ue2 and run on the ps2, those games have more detail then ut2k4 so i assume that would run fine too.

*Sir_Brizz* · 28th Aug 2004, 01:15 AM

I actually think the problem is more hardware rendering, iso-linear filtering, and antialiasing more than anything. the PS2 has none.

The_Head · 5th Sep 2004, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Turboman

unreal engine 2 does run on the ps2 without problems, splinter cell and XIII use ue2 and run on the ps2, those games have more detail then ut2k4 so i assume that would run fine too.

Splinter Cell doesn't match UT2004's graphics and XIII lacks detail.

*Sir_Brizz* · 5th Sep 2004, 02:40 PM

PS2 Splinter Cell doesn't even come close to XBox Splinter Cell. It's not really UEngine 2, it's a hack.

UncleThursday · 7th Sep 2004, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cole_bie

i think the ps2 could easily handle it. game designers are really pushing the limits of the ps2 and games are coming out that more and more resemble xbox games such as mercanaries.

Sorry, but you're being somewhat of a wishful thinker there. The only games on the PS2, GameCube, and Xbox that have the PS2 being comperable, graphics wise, to the other two systems are the games deisgen on the PS2 first, then ported over with no effort put into the ports for the higher powered systems.

The PS2 can push polys, it does that fine. What the PS2 can't do is good textures and bit and bump mapping. It absolutely sucks at these, and the mere 8MB of VRAM bunched with the vector units and co-processing limitations doesn't help.

Compare Splinter Cell on the PS2 to the Xbox (or GC) version, and it's no comparrison which has the better graphics. Just try to find a game that has the level of detail of The Chronicles of Riddick (Xbox) or the graphics seen in the new Legend of Zelda trailer (GC) on the PS2. The closest you may find is GT4 or KillZone, but even then you'll be able to see better graphics on the other two systems, and see the faults in the PS2's graphics.

Not to bash the PS2, really. I love the RPGs on it, and the THPS series on it... but, when it comes to graphics "that more and more resemble xbox' graphics, you're living in a fantasy world. Then again, it is about gameplay, in the end, not graphics.

UncleThursday · 7th Sep 2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir_Brizz

I actually think the problem is more hardware rendering, iso-linear filtering, and antialiasing more than anything. the PS2 has none.

To be honest, the GC and Xbox have kind of a hard time with antiailiasing as well. Tons of jaggies on all the systems. IT's too much of a processor hit to effectively AA games, at least with the current gen of consoles.

*Sir_Brizz* · 7th Sep 2004, 10:25 AM

With interlacing, you can't really tell anyways...but the truth is that every XBox game uses a form of Quincunx by default, although it's not exceptionally better, it does make a difference.

Dark Pulse · 13th Sep 2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kailonn

What are the games for the ps2 that are unreal? (ut also) I've been looking but..

actually, there's a port of Unreal 1 for the PS1. I've not seen any material on it, and seeing it's PS1 it's probably a pretty sorry port...

But then again, PS1 handled Quake 2 pretty good.

(No, I'm not a Quaker. You won't find me playing that stuff online. I had Quake long before Unreal though.)

The_Head · 13th Sep 2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Pulse

actually, there's a port of Unreal 1 for the PS1. I've not seen any material on it, and seeing it's PS1 it's probably a pretty sorry port...

Unreal 1 on PS1, are u sure, i was subscribed to official ps2 magazine and there is no record of such a title. UT1 came out on PS2 but was allegedly poor (comparitevly) I'm not a fan of console FPS games i like using a mouse. (any smart asses who say u can get a mouse and keyboard for ps2 can shut up, i wouldn't buy one.

Dark Pulse · 14th Sep 2004, 07:43 AM

Not totally, the only reason I said that was a Tips & Tricks codebook has codes for it. Like I've said, I've seen no other media on it.

Keep in Mind Unreal is a less demanding game then UT99 - textures were mostly 256x256, whereas UT had ones that went all the way up to 1024x512 I think.

25th Jul 2004, 09:49 PM	#1
Kailonn Skaarj PitFighter Join Date: Jul. 19th, 2004 Location: Wyoming Posts: 15	ps2 Unreal Games? What are the games for the ps2 that are unreal? (ut also) I've been looking but.. __________________ I play Ut all the time! Only instead of getting better,I think i get worse....

6th Aug 2004, 05:26 PM	#3
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	and probably nothing else. the system can't handle the last generation of graphics, how would it be able to handle the next? __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

11th Aug 2004, 07:08 PM	#4
RaptoR been here far too long Join Date: May. 7th, 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,524	There were rumours of a game called Unreal Assault for the PS2, but that's been canned now, if it even existed at all. As Brizz said, the PS2 struggles to handle the original UT, so there's no way it'll be able to handle UT2004-level titles. __________________

13th Aug 2004, 11:20 PM	#6
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	I'm afraid not. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

23rd Aug 2004, 06:10 AM	#9
Uncle_Bob Sympathy for Mr. Vengance Join Date: Apr. 12th, 2004 Posts: 272	Dues Ex is on PS2, that uses the unreal engine. I haven't played it but its suposed to be a bit jerky. Far Cry is coming out on PS2 and it has really advanced graphics. It will probably scaled down loads in the detail department though. __________________ My Deviant Art

13th Aug 2004, 07:28 PM	#5
cole_bie ^^^SHOW ME THE PINK^^^ Join Date: Jun. 29th, 2004 Posts: 806	i think the ps2 could easily handle it. game designers are really pushing the limits of the ps2 and games are coming out that more and more resemble xbox games such as mercanaries.

20th Aug 2004, 11:18 AM	#7
cole_bie ^^^SHOW ME THE PINK^^^ Join Date: Jun. 29th, 2004 Posts: 806	IM AFRAID SO!

22nd Aug 2004, 01:42 PM	#8
SludgeX ... Join Date: Jul. 9th, 2001 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 515	While the PS2 is a great system (it's my console of choice...), I must agree with RaptoR and Brizz on this one. The PlayStation2 just doesn't have the ability to push the number of polygons that current Unreal games require. The only Unreal game for the PS2 is the original UT. But I can't recommend it because it's a pretty shoddy port.

25th Aug 2004, 05:07 AM	#10
Hourences Join Date: Aug. 29th, 2000 Location: Belgium/Holland/Sweden Posts: 5,054	ps2 can sometimes handle a higher polycount than the avg ut2004 level on a normal modern pc can polycount isnt the problem, memory use and the way its calculated and stored is unreal wasnt build with ps2 and its memory/cpu architecture in mind so its really bad in drawing and storing things on it sufficiently renderware engine and stuff are better for ps2 there are multiple u ps2 titles in dev atm tho __________________

26th Aug 2004, 11:54 AM	#11
Turboman deRegistered user Join Date: May. 4th, 2002 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands Posts: 151	unreal engine 2 does run on the ps2 without problems, splinter cell and XIII use ue2 and run on the ps2, those games have more detail then ut2k4 so i assume that would run fine too. Last edited by Turboman; 26th Aug 2004 at 11:55 AM.

28th Aug 2004, 01:15 AM	#12
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	I actually think the problem is more hardware rendering, iso-linear filtering, and antialiasing more than anything. the PS2 has none. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

5th Sep 2004, 02:40 PM	#14
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	PS2 Splinter Cell doesn't even come close to XBox Splinter Cell. It's not really UEngine 2, it's a hack. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

7th Sep 2004, 10:25 AM	#17
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,268	With interlacing, you can't really tell anyways...but the truth is that every XBox game uses a form of Quincunx by default, although it's not exceptionally better, it does make a difference. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

14th Sep 2004, 07:43 AM	#20
Dark Pulse Dolla, Dolla. Holla, Holla. Join Date: Sep. 12th, 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY, USA Posts: 6,181	Not totally, the only reason I said that was a Tips & Tricks codebook has codes for it. Like I've said, I've seen no other media on it. Keep in Mind Unreal is a less demanding game then UT99 - textures were mostly 256x256, whereas UT had ones that went all the way up to 1024x512 I think. __________________ Last edited by Dark Pulse; 14th Sep 2004 at 07:53 AM.

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