DM-Deck-40..

Master Roshi · 21st Mar 2004, 02:26 PM

Created by Bot_40 this is the BEST deck-16 conversion ever! This is good enough to be a 2k3 map. But I think enough of you know that already.. This is a must download.

Nahand · 21st Mar 2004, 03:58 PM

?...

Balton · 22nd Mar 2004, 07:07 AM

roshi "the troll" x aka betty has a deck16 fetish. just put him on ignore.

Swanky · 23rd Mar 2004, 09:56 AM

Let's head for a real user review...
When I first entered the map I was surprised of the stunning graphics: loads of Details, atmospheric lighting to call only some of the overall visuals. While saying this map is clone, I came to the point this map has not too much of that original Deck-16 except for the overall floorplan (which had been edited, too).
Brushwork is well done, I don't know many maps that are made as good as this one. If trim, deco, landscape, this one is overwhelming, and the custom texture set is used very well and adds great atmosphere (imagine playing this one with another texture set...). Lighting is as good as brushwork, there are not too many colors but enough to make a good veriety of tones. All the flares were about the best size, and supported lighting, atmosphere and everything else very well

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This map will offer a good challenge as both bots and floorplan are a good combination with some flaws, though. I noticed I am falling from the edge shown in pic2 way too often, while fighting backwards against some bots. Other places are too tight, too, just check out the high ramp in pic 1. Maybe you noticed I am using the word fight very often. Why? Because you will have to fight a good period of time nonstop, there's often trouble and even more action. Though the origin is for even 10 or more players, you'll stop at 5 foe maximum, for more this one is definitly too small.
Sound is kind of twilight here, while ambient sounds were good (placed), music just suxxx X( I am missing the icy feeling here.

Conclusion
Some good and some bad points, even if you dislike Deck_16, you should give it a try, maybe you'll say yes.

good
- AI
- brushwork
- lighting
- fast paced gameplay
- ambient sounds
- selfmade decomeshes (in a UT map)

somewhere in the middle
- a walkway leading into the darkness...
- tightness of the map
- gameplay

bad points
- tightness of the map (sometimes you just can't really call it gameplay)
- music
- minor flaws

CyberSirius · 23rd Mar 2004, 02:41 PM

Pros: Architechture,AI,Flow,Ambience
Cons:Music???

Blueyes · 24th Mar 2004, 08:30 AM

Very nice map indeed! maybe a bit too many white lights "a la GUI"

Some blueish ones would have improved "coldness" in the theme imo.

...and you can't really compare this one to Deck_16, it's like comparing oranges with apples...

CONGRATS BOT!

Zlal · 2nd Apr 2004, 11:46 AM

Really dont get why people dont like the blocked passageway that leads to darkness. It's just decoration.

Mxtrmntr · 3rd Apr 2004, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowlurker

Really dont get why people dont like the blocked passageway that leads to darkness. It's just decoration.

And I really don't get why certain people combine wonderful eternally great Mercury Rev quotes with Moby lyrics mediocrity in NC user comments. Shame on you, Shadowlurker, shame on you

X22887 · 29th Jun 2004, 04:44 AM

QUack!

nice map

Zlal · 20th Jul 2004, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mxtrmntr

And I really don't get why certain people combine wonderful eternally great Mercury Rev quotes with Moby lyrics mediocrity in NC user comments. Shame on you, Shadowlurker, shame on you

Huh?

scirmast · 23rd Sep 2004, 04:39 PM

This map is good for most part, but it has one significant flaw!

In sinclgep layer (botmatch), the map runs very smoothly, but in actual multiplayer, the map is choppy. Players move as if there were lag and no prediction. Before I used D3D, but with the new computer I use openGL (the way this map is supposed to be played). Still I get problems. The old computer, however, still uses D3D. Could this affect also my performance? When we played, I hosted the game.

Bot_40 · 24th Sep 2004, 10:25 AM

Dunno, might be something to do with the particles, I never tested it online

ReD_Fist · 13th Jun 2005, 04:59 PM

It's a well enough map,some cool tricky things in there,but I don't see whats the big deal,it aint a deck16 map,in no way at all.

So it's not the second comming of christ like everybody keeps saying,it isn't very good gameplay at all,just a map leaching off of people saying
"if you redo a map it should be like this" WTF

I was very impressed on the way it looks though,but why people keep equating any map that has the word "deck" in it just like atroDECK,no way we were redoing deck16 either,don't you guys think we hate deck16 remakes to?

Bot_40 · 14th Jun 2005, 10:57 AM

Frieza · 27th Jun 2005, 05:24 PM

Li3k OLD! OLOLOLOL!!1!!

Seriously though, thats quite a bump

Kantham · 27th Jun 2005, 06:38 PM

like................ BUMP

Chrysaor · 30th Jun 2005, 06:05 PM

I'm glad someone else takes the time to skin terrain in max. But your particle stuff takes the cake on this one.

Hort · 30th Jun 2005, 09:25 PM

/me throws Bot_40 a biscuit.

Bot_40 · 1st Jul 2005, 08:22 PM

I didn't skin anything in max, I just used my classic "rotate terrain by 90 degrees and align to floor" which is a nice hack to get proper planar alignment in UED2

You can still see the seams when the rocks pass 45 degrees

21st Mar 2004, 02:26 PM	#1
Master Roshi Troll Join Date: Jul. 19th, 2003 Location: P.A. United states Posts: 796	DM-Deck-40.. Created by Bot_40 this is the BEST deck-16 conversion ever! This is good enough to be a 2k3 map. But I think enough of you know that already.. This is a must download. __________________ Get my deathmatch "maps" here.

21st Mar 2004, 03:58 PM	#2
Nahand !!! God Of Random !1? Join Date: Oct. 24th, 2003 Location: PT Posts: 1,018	?... __________________ [spAm & pr0n] = [SA - FlickS]

22nd Mar 2004, 07:07 AM	#3
Balton The Beast of Worship Join Date: Mar. 6th, 2001 Location: Berlin Posts: 12,449	roshi "the troll" x aka betty has a deck16 fetish. just put him on ignore. __________________ "God made Hitler and Saddam!!! Not schnitzel and the bomb!!!" - oosyxxx

24th Mar 2004, 08:30 AM	#6
Blueyes Be nice to me... Join Date: Feb. 11th, 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 156	TOP QUALITY! Very nice map indeed! maybe a bit too many white lights "a la GUI" Some blueish ones would have improved "coldness" in the theme imo. ...and you can't really compare this one to Deck_16, it's like comparing oranges with apples... CONGRATS BOT! __________________ ---Blueyes---

29th Jun 2004, 04:44 AM	#9
X22887 !Crap Mapper! Join Date: May. 2nd, 2002 Posts: 267	QUack! nice map __________________ Shattered Oasis Mapper

23rd Mar 2004, 09:56 AM	#4
Swanky Natural Born Killer - Yoshi! Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 50	Let's head for a real user review... When I first entered the map I was surprised of the stunning graphics: loads of Details, atmospheric lighting to call only some of the overall visuals. While saying this map is clone, I came to the point this map has not too much of that original Deck-16 except for the overall floorplan (which had been edited, too). Brushwork is well done, I don't know many maps that are made as good as this one. If trim, deco, landscape, this one is overwhelming, and the custom texture set is used very well and adds great atmosphere (imagine playing this one with another texture set...). Lighting is as good as brushwork, there are not too many colors but enough to make a good veriety of tones. All the flares were about the best size, and supported lighting, atmosphere and everything else very well . This map will offer a good challenge as both bots and floorplan are a good combination with some flaws, though. I noticed I am falling from the edge shown in pic2 way too often, while fighting backwards against some bots. Other places are too tight, too, just check out the high ramp in pic 1. Maybe you noticed I am using the word fight very often. Why? Because you will have to fight a good period of time nonstop, there's often trouble and even more action. Though the origin is for even 10 or more players, you'll stop at 5 foe maximum, for more this one is definitly too small. Sound is kind of twilight here, while ambient sounds were good (placed), music just suxxx X( I am missing the icy feeling here. Conclusion Some good and some bad points, even if you dislike Deck_16, you should give it a try, maybe you'll say yes. good - AI - brushwork - lighting - fast paced gameplay - ambient sounds - selfmade decomeshes (in a UT map) somewhere in the middle - a walkway leading into the darkness... - tightness of the map - gameplay bad points - tightness of the map (sometimes you just can't really call it gameplay) - music - minor flaws

23rd Mar 2004, 02:41 PM	#5
CyberSirius Mostly dead. Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2004 Posts: 1,369	Pros: Architechture,AI,Flow,Ambience Cons:Music???

2nd Apr 2004, 11:46 AM	#7
Zlal New but not improved. Join Date: Nov. 4th, 2001 Location: Exeter Posts: 1,285	Really dont get why people dont like the blocked passageway that leads to darkness. It's just decoration.

23rd Sep 2004, 04:39 PM	#11
scirmast Registered User Join Date: Oct. 20th, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 152	This map is good for most part, but it has one significant flaw! In sinclgep layer (botmatch), the map runs very smoothly, but in actual multiplayer, the map is choppy. Players move as if there were lag and no prediction. Before I used D3D, but with the new computer I use openGL (the way this map is supposed to be played). Still I get problems. The old computer, however, still uses D3D. Could this affect also my performance? When we played, I hosted the game.

24th Sep 2004, 10:25 AM	#12
Bot_40 Go in drains Join Date: Nov. 3rd, 2001 Location: York, UK Posts: 2,911	Dunno, might be something to do with the particles, I never tested it online __________________ New Website "Purple Ants's national animal is the giant hourences and its currency is the zlal."

13th Jun 2005, 04:59 PM	#13
ReD_Fist Banned Join Date: Sep. 6th, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,404	It's a well enough map,some cool tricky things in there,but I don't see whats the big deal,it aint a deck16 map,in no way at all. So it's not the second comming of christ like everybody keeps saying,it isn't very good gameplay at all,just a map leaching off of people saying "if you redo a map it should be like this" WTF I was very impressed on the way it looks though,but why people keep equating any map that has the word "deck" in it just like atroDECK,no way we were redoing deck16 either,don't you guys think we hate deck16 remakes to? __________________ RF out...............

14th Jun 2005, 10:57 AM	#14
Bot_40 Go in drains Join Date: Nov. 3rd, 2001 Location: York, UK Posts: 2,911	__________________ New Website "Purple Ants's national animal is the giant hourences and its currency is the zlal."

27th Jun 2005, 05:24 PM	#15
Frieza Skilled Join Date: Sep. 15th, 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 85	Li3k OLD! OLOLOLOL!!1!! Seriously though, thats quite a bump __________________ There cant be enough polys in your level ^^

27th Jun 2005, 06:38 PM	#16
Kantham Fool. Join Date: Sep. 17th, 2004 Posts: 17,939	like................ BUMP __________________

30th Jun 2005, 06:05 PM	#17
Chrysaor Lord of the Pants Join Date: Nov. 3rd, 2001 Location: Hiding in your Attic Posts: 3,019	I'm glad someone else takes the time to skin terrain in max. But your particle stuff takes the cake on this one. __________________ "Even the title of this thread is not consistent with its content." -ViSion

30th Jun 2005, 09:25 PM	#18
Hort Registered User Join Date: Dec. 24th, 2004 Posts: 10	/me throws Bot_40 a biscuit.

1st Jul 2005, 08:22 PM	#19
Bot_40 Go in drains Join Date: Nov. 3rd, 2001 Location: York, UK Posts: 2,911	I didn't skin anything in max, I just used my classic "rotate terrain by 90 degrees and align to floor" which is a nice hack to get proper planar alignment in UED2 You can still see the seams when the rocks pass 45 degrees __________________ New Website "Purple Ants's national animal is the giant hourences and its currency is the zlal."

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