so i got Xbox live now... - Page 2

*Sir_Brizz* · 27th Jul 2004, 05:46 PM

My biggest complaint with XBox Live is that downloadable content should be FREE (like the UC patch) and less than 1% of all servers were LIVE servers and not community servers. IMO, the only reason to HAVE Live is for fast servers (which there aren't) and the buddy list.

Peregrine · 28th Jul 2004, 08:43 AM

It's not free? 0_0
Sad...
Buddy list is cool, agreed, but for $6-$9/month ... nah.

*Sir_Brizz* · 28th Jul 2004, 09:46 AM

It's free...as long as you paid for Live

IMO it should be free and SEPERATE from Live. Right now, they are using d/l'able content to attract new customers that won't use the service for anything else.

Duffman! · 29th Jul 2004, 05:53 AM

Ill add ya.

My tag is DUFFKING

My games:

C-S, UC, SC:PT, RTCW, Ninja Gaiden, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, XII, Project Gotham Racing 2

Clayeth · 29th Jul 2004, 02:46 PM

I've never even heard of "XBC or XBT"

Stigmata · 30th Jul 2004, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayeth

I've never even heard of "XBC or XBT"

XBC is Xbox Connect and I think that XBT is XBox Tunnel (via Gamespy Arcade)
XBC is, IMO, better than XBT

Clayeth · 30th Jul 2004, 02:42 PM

hmm... i need to check these out. Links? Info?

=ty=

MeStinkBAD · 6th Aug 2004, 10:29 AM

You know whatg I've been doing for the past 14 hours? Working on my PC trying to a "fresh" Windows install without loosing any data. It's been two years since I last installed Windows... and it finally gave out. Why, because Windows is sh*t.

And I can't beleive you honestly think six bucks a month is a ton of cash. If I were chraging someone $50 an hour for the work I've done on my PC, I'd be up $700. And I probably am halfway done. Right this moment Windows is installing itself, but not to the correct drive. Makes me want to scream.

Xbox live isn't anywhere near perfect, but it's evolving. Things like clan support and the like will be added. And not everything works with PC games. The stats server, for example, has been down for months and now appears to be partly up. Why such a long wait? Well because unlike most "PC" net games, the stats server is run by Atari (or a sub contractor). Most gaming servers are hosted by gamers. Many exploit fixes are fixed by people who play the game.

Peregrine · 6th Aug 2004, 12:15 PM

Most gaming servers are hosted on dedicated servers.

$6/month ISN'T a lot of money, no, but every little bit adds up. $40-$50 for braodband every month + $6-8/month for Xbhox Live, another $12 for HBO, my cable/internet bill is already $109? And what do I get for my $6?
Not enough, imo.

*Sir_Brizz* · 6th Aug 2004, 05:23 PM

I agree. I won't pay for play for the MMORPGs for exactly the same reason. It's not alot of money, but there's just not enough incentive to pay it.

UncleThursday · 7th Sep 2004, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayeth

That's too bad, because as soon as they start losing money on it they'll have to restructure it and drop the fee, then it would be free for everyone and it would have about 5x as many users. Not only that, but there would also be the possibility that multi-platform titles could be compatible with one another, so people with Madden for the PS2 could play against people with Madden on the Xbox.

What do you mean as soon as it "starts" losing money? XBL has been losing money since day 1, as has the Xbox (to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars per quarter in losses).

In fact, Microsoft only makes money on two divisions: Office and Windows. EVERYTHING else they lose money on, except MSN made a profit for one whole quarter then again went into the money pit.

Microsoft is content to charge people money for XBL as long as no other service comes out that's free to make people wise up. Imagine how few people would stay with Xbox Live if Sony or Nintendo (or both) decided to give the same services as XBL, but make them free? Only the most die hard Xbox fanboy would stay with XBL then. If Sony or Nintendo (or both) do this, THEN you'll see Microisoft have to cave in on charging people to play online.

27th Jul 2004, 05:46 PM	#21
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	My biggest complaint with XBox Live is that downloadable content should be FREE (like the UC patch) and less than 1% of all servers were LIVE servers and not community servers. IMO, the only reason to HAVE Live is for fast servers (which there aren't) and the buddy list. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

28th Jul 2004, 08:43 AM	#22
Peregrine Death from above Join Date: Jan. 16th, 2001 Location: Lake Erie Shoreline Posts: 2,507	It's not free? 0_0 Sad... Buddy list is cool, agreed, but for $6-$9/month ... nah. __________________

28th Jul 2004, 09:46 AM	#23
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	It's free...as long as you paid for Live IMO it should be free and SEPERATE from Live. Right now, they are using d/l'able content to attract new customers that won't use the service for anything else. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

29th Jul 2004, 02:46 PM	#25
Clayeth Classic Join Date: Apr. 10th, 2000 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,602	I've never even heard of "XBC or XBT" __________________ Stupid squirrels!!!

30th Jul 2004, 02:42 PM	#27
Clayeth Classic Join Date: Apr. 10th, 2000 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,602	hmm... i need to check these out. Links? Info? =ty= __________________ Stupid squirrels!!!

29th Jul 2004, 05:53 AM	#24
Duffman! Registered User Join Date: May. 29th, 2004 Posts: 20	Ill add ya. My tag is DUFFKING My games: C-S, UC, SC:PT, RTCW, Ninja Gaiden, Rainbow 6, Ghost Recon, XII, Project Gotham Racing 2

6th Aug 2004, 10:29 AM	#28
MeStinkBAD Lurking where you least suspect... Join Date: Dec. 26th, 2000 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 223	You know whatg I've been doing for the past 14 hours? Working on my PC trying to a "fresh" Windows install without loosing any data. It's been two years since I last installed Windows... and it finally gave out. Why, because Windows is sh*t. And I can't beleive you honestly think six bucks a month is a ton of cash. If I were chraging someone $50 an hour for the work I've done on my PC, I'd be up $700. And I probably am halfway done. Right this moment Windows is installing itself, but not to the correct drive. Makes me want to scream. Xbox live isn't anywhere near perfect, but it's evolving. Things like clan support and the like will be added. And not everything works with PC games. The stats server, for example, has been down for months and now appears to be partly up. Why such a long wait? Well because unlike most "PC" net games, the stats server is run by Atari (or a sub contractor). Most gaming servers are hosted by gamers. Many exploit fixes are fixed by people who play the game. __________________ Dustin

6th Aug 2004, 12:15 PM	#29
Peregrine Death from above Join Date: Jan. 16th, 2001 Location: Lake Erie Shoreline Posts: 2,507	Most gaming servers are hosted on dedicated servers. $6/month ISN'T a lot of money, no, but every little bit adds up. $40-$50 for braodband every month + $6-8/month for Xbhox Live, another $12 for HBO, my cable/internet bill is already $109? And what do I get for my $6? Not enough, imo. __________________

6th Aug 2004, 05:23 PM	#30
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	I agree. I won't pay for play for the MMORPGs for exactly the same reason. It's not alot of money, but there's just not enough incentive to pay it. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

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