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Old 8th Jan 2004, 08:39 PM   #1
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What weapons do you want to see added?

Please give us some input here:
http://dan-roberts.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=74#74

*note we'll still have final say, so try to stick to milspec weapons. We don't want to have to reject your ideas.
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Old 8th Jan 2004, 11:06 PM   #2
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Old 8th Jan 2004, 11:13 PM   #3
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 11:19 AM   #4
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RPK, as an alternative for the FN Minimi
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 12:08 PM   #5
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/me removes RPK, and says PKM. Better weapon all around.
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 12:30 PM   #6
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that was a typo of me... i meant PKM
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 03:43 PM   #7
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Isn't the PKM a bit big for one soldier to carry around? Add in belts and such... What would the bulk values be like?

That's why I favor the RPK. Think of it as Minimi-Lite. And it could share mags/drums with the existing AKMSU...

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Old 9th Jan 2004, 03:46 PM   #8
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This has been brought up before, but rejected out of hand, even by me.

M4.

Yes, it's pretty much the same as the M16A2, BUT:

Lighter bulk value ingame, AND

semi, 3-rd burst, AND full auto. Plus LAM/Flashlight/Aimpoint or Reflex sights.

Besides, where'd that kick ass multi poly model go?????
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 03:53 PM   #9
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Isn't the PKM a bit big for one soldier to carry around? Add in belts and such... What would the bulk values be like?

That's why I favor the RPK. Think of it as Minimi-Lite. And it could share mags/drums with the existing AKMSU...

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you see 20 year old africans haul it around, so why can't a well-fed european carry it
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 05:16 PM   #10
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you see 20 year old africans haul it around, so why can't a well-fed european carry it
I guess... But have you used the Minimi yet? Bulk adds real up quick! Minimi + 2-3 boxes of ammo + body armor = slow bastard that gets gunned down real quick.

And seeing as how the PKM is bigger and fires larger, bulkier ammo... Man, it could get ugly fast! I know that right now, the Minimi as about as big a weapon as I'd want to haul around the virtual battlefied...

What would the PKM add that the Minimi doesn't - other than more bulk? Yes, I suppose the larger 7.62x54R round would be more lethal - but the higher ROF of the Minimi pretty much balances that out, right? Don't get me wrong, the PKM is a nice weapon, but I doubt it would get much use... The Minimi would be just as functional with less bulk.

Meanwhile, the RPK would be a nice alternative to the Minimi... The trade-off would be lower bulk for lower ROF (RPK ~600) and suppressive fire ability (30 rnd mag or 75 rnd drum vs 200 rnd box). I think that would fill a niche between the Minimi and the existing ARs without much overlap.

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Old 9th Jan 2004, 06:08 PM   #11
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PKM looks cool
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 06:11 PM   #12
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flying monkey launcher (The monkeys would have Frickin lasers attatced to there heads)

or maybe a g36 with a high cap magazine? or a SA80
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 06:43 PM   #13
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I havnt seen this suggestion yet, and I am not sure if its an option, but what about the Walther P99? Sure its another pistol, but who could resist this beutifuly crafted hand gun man. Also, what is a static weapon?

Last thing then I got to go to bed. Would the HK MP5/10A4 count? Another SMG wouldnt hurt, would it?

Oh yea, I gota comment on the MINIMI thing. I toat around the SAW with 2 boxes of ammo, 1 in the gun with a spair, and using the strongest armor vest there is with the helmet and I can get around fast and sprint with no problem.
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 07:19 PM   #14
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I havnt seen this suggestion yet, and I am not sure if its an option, but what about the Walther P99? Sure its another pistol, but who could resist this beutifuly crafted hand gun man. Also, what is a static weapon?

Last thing then I got to go to bed. Would the HK MP5/10A4 count? Another SMG wouldnt hurt, would it?

Oh yea, I gota comment on the MINIMI thing. I toat around the SAW with 2 boxes of ammo, 1 in the gun with a spair, and using the strongest armor vest there is with the helmet and I can get around fast and sprint with no problem.
Beppo and SS may have the P99 in the works - it's listed in the armory and Beppo has hinted that those weapons listed but not yet implemented may be released in a patch.

MP5/10 would be nearly the same weapon as the existing MP5/40 - just slightly higher damage values.

Regarding the Minimi - yes, with two boxes (one loaded, one spare) and Llv IIIA/helmet, you're okay. It's that third box that turns you into a snail. I admittedly don't use the Minimi much (I'm a SIG/AKMSU guy), so I don't know how often that third box is needed, if at all...

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Old 9th Jan 2004, 07:26 PM   #15
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Can the AKMSU shoot through walls? even thick ones?
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 08:12 PM   #16
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not really a weapon suggestion, but id like to see several modifications to the inf soldier... i.e. goggles, vest, ammo pouches, bulkier "stuff" for example. In my opinion, i just think that the inf soldier looks incredibly thin, and i wouldnt mind seeing really encumbered or loaded inf soldiers instead of the simple rucksack.
something like this for example (taken from a ghost recon mod)

other suggestions include the ability to have balaclava ONLY, or a beret... for headwear. I think the weapons are pretty much fine as they are and i wouldnt mind seeing several new modifications to player models.

also, is there a way to set the "freecam" after end of round?
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 08:43 PM   #17
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M4.
...semi, 3-rd burst, AND full auto...
The M4 in the US Armed Forces refers to a carbine version of the M16A2. 370mm barrel, fixed carry handle, and trigger group of 0-1-3.

The M4A1 however is the carbine version of the M16A3. 370mm barrel, removable carry handle, and trigger group of 0-1-30.

No M16 variant in the US Armed Forces has a trigger group of 0-1-3-30.

Just for your information.
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m4 has a removable carry handle as well BTW. Last i checked anyway.
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http://world.guns.ru/assault/as17-e.htm

Just look at the first two pictures and their captions. Only the M4A1 has the removable carry handle.
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Old 9th Jan 2004, 10:52 PM   #20
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m4 has a removable carry handle as well BTW. Last i checked anyway.
You sure? I thought the M4 had fixed carry hande and 0/1/3 selector and M4A1 had removeable carry handle and 0/1/auto selector?

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