Deus Ex 2: Invisible War

*Sir_Brizz* · 9th Dec 2003, 01:53 AM

RAWKS!

that's all I have to say about that. I can't believe people are complaining about it being dumbed down...it's like exactly the same with a couple of options taken out. If Deus Ex was Chocolate Cheesecake with whipped cream topping and chocolate chips and hot fudge, then Deus Ex 2 is all the same without the chocoalte chips

RegularX · 9th Dec 2003, 09:08 AM

Yeah, I'm with you Brizzy - I can't wait to get my hands on the full version after playing the demo.

I do think it's sad that Ion Storm couldn't muster a better PC release - seems very lazy to have bad ini setups between platforms, but it's not the worst crime in the world.

Hedge · 9th Dec 2003, 11:15 AM

Ion Storm did something funny with the ini files in the final release. When you start the game a set you options in the menu, everything is cool, but then you start the game again, the menu is running at the default resolution. This problem really erked me until I loaded a saved game. Then all my saved settings came back. Does that make sense? It will only use your settings in the game, the menu will always use the default settings. I still very much like this game.

RegularX · 9th Dec 2003, 11:28 AM

I heard the final version had many of the same problems as the demo, which is - in a word, dumb.

Make sure that your ini files aren't write protected. There's also several threads at the Ion Storm forums about tweaking the demo which may apply to the full game.

Anathema- · 9th Dec 2003, 12:03 PM

I'm quite a ways into this game and I must say .. I love it!

Hedge · 9th Dec 2003, 08:04 PM

Actually, I haven't found the problems that existed in the demo in the final version. Some of the things that people thought to be problems were really just Ion Storms weird way of doing things. I think some people just want to rip on the game because they a whinners and have nothing else to do.

*Sir_Brizz* · 9th Dec 2003, 08:12 PM

I've loved everything aout this game so far. Especially the real time shadows (even though they sometimes drop me to 15fps

).

I'm sure we'll be seeing a couple patches (or more) to fix the ini and things, It looks like they didn't have time to release any of the debugging code or anything before release...stupid Eidos must have been chomping at the bit with it.

Still it's a great game. I love it.

Cap'n Beeb · 10th Dec 2003, 03:39 PM

I just did the

Spoiler Warning! (move mouse over box below to reveal)

Get the goods on that guy smuggling stuff to the Tharsus(sp) lady for the WTO Captain

mission, damn fun so far.

Rocket_Magnet · 28th Dec 2003, 01:10 PM

beer: aye that adds a faction into it, and the plot thickends...

i completed it one way, but theres a good few more to do yet

CiD · 29th Dec 2003, 11:31 AM

it is a truly great game.ive found 5 endings so far(1 is kind of a joke,IMO).playing through again to see if there are any other variations to the story line.very addicting.

RegularX · 25th Feb 2004, 11:41 AM

I'm nearing the end of the game now, my first run through.

Pros:

This is pure Deus Ex in terms of style of story. Complicated, but in a fun, nearly campy way - the multiple conspiracies and even the high brow philosophy is pure entertainment, not annoying dribble.

Immersion is quite high, and that "intimate" quality to the levels Spector spoke of is definately in full effect.

Production values for the voices, artwork, etc. seem quite high - and there's no skimping on work to allow for multiple outcomes to nearly any scenario, no matter how remote it might seem ( killing a character early in the game, etc )

Some of the tie-ins and inside jokes to the first game are glorious.

Combat is usually highly fun, especially later on in the game when you are properly bio-modded up and can seriously whup ass.

Cons:

Unified ammo can drain all your weapons at once.

Lack of skill tree lowers character development and flexibility.

Performance hog.

Overall, it's a good to great game. I argue heavily against people who say it's too short. If you beat this game in 10 hours, as I've heard some reviewers quote, you aren't seeing all of the game. This isn't a pure shooter, the goal isn't to get to the end as quickly as possible.

I can half agree with some of oversimplification complaints. The unified ammo is lamentable and the lack of Spector's innovative skill system is regrettable. I hacked around the ammo with a simple ini tweak that simply fills my ammo full when I pick up any clip. (I'm playing on realism mode and it's standard setting empties your ammo pretty much after any fight). The lack of skills isn't really a negative to the game as it plays, but if it were included it would expand the replayability even more.

I had no problems with the GUI or the Inventory screens at all.

I do regret that Ion Storm fiddled with the renderer so much. Yes, some of the scenes look great - but it caps the performance too much and was apparently the root cause of no DeusED being shipped. SP and side missions would be fun to make here.

tool · 26th Feb 2004, 07:47 PM

I'm stuck on it, I am on the Germany level, the mission where you go to the templar church and have to get that infomation that is inside the church. I got the infomation but now I am lost. I can't seem to find the way back to the German city.

RegularX · 27th Feb 2004, 10:33 AM

You've saved Holiness/Donna? Or am I thinking the wrong place.

Also - did the Mag Rail secondary work for anyone? I swear I never shot through a single wall.

tool · 27th Feb 2004, 06:44 PM

Ok I found out what to do. I never tried the mag rail, i'm afraid to because it might waste all my ammo.

*Sir_Brizz* · 27th Feb 2004, 07:24 PM

I shot through the wall on the level in the airport place to get rid of people in the locked dock because I kept getting killed climbing up the ladder (where you save Paul).

Worked nicely I guess, it does waste all your ammo.

RegularX · 28th Feb 2004, 10:52 AM

I hadn't realzied it was only EMP

SystemShock@dls.pipex · 31st Jan 2006, 09:47 PM

The one thing that made me screem was no unreal ed for it ......
so no user made content...it locked up tighter then the crown gews ...fools....that the quickist way to hit the bargin bins.

wildfrogman · 8th Feb 2006, 11:29 PM

lol, this brings back memories...from two years ago... Anyways, how'd you find a 2 year old thread?

Its a much better game once patched than when released, runs great on ati cards and is cheap yet makes you think a bit...weird storyline.

SystemShock@dls.pipex · 20th Feb 2006, 01:56 PM

See the little robot dog...and the blue police phone box over there..

Angel_Mapper · 20th Feb 2006, 07:56 PM

Deus Ex 2 was a pretty fun game, but the story wasn't that good. By the end I didn't really care who won.

9th Dec 2003, 01:53 AM	#1
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	Deus Ex 2: Invisible War RAWKS! that's all I have to say about that. I can't believe people are complaining about it being dumbed down...it's like exactly the same with a couple of options taken out. If Deus Ex was Chocolate Cheesecake with whipped cream topping and chocolate chips and hot fudge, then Deus Ex 2 is all the same without the chocoalte chips __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

9th Dec 2003, 09:08 AM	#2
RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies Join Date: Feb. 2nd, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,215	Yeah, I'm with you Brizzy - I can't wait to get my hands on the full version after playing the demo. I do think it's sad that Ion Storm couldn't muster a better PC release - seems very lazy to have bad ini setups between platforms, but it's not the worst crime in the world. __________________ _____________________________ I remember old school. Champion of Glaucoma Inducing Radiation Everywhere

9th Dec 2003, 11:28 AM	#4
RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies Join Date: Feb. 2nd, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,215	I heard the final version had many of the same problems as the demo, which is - in a word, dumb. Make sure that your ini files aren't write protected. There's also several threads at the Ion Storm forums about tweaking the demo which may apply to the full game. __________________ _____________________________ I remember old school. Champion of Glaucoma Inducing Radiation Everywhere

9th Dec 2003, 12:03 PM	#5
Anathema- ...because we're NOT free Join Date: Oct. 19th, 2003 Posts: 386	I'm quite a ways into this game and I must say .. I love it! __________________ There are times in life; when you just do what you're trained to do .. and the only thing you feel when you take a human life .. is recoil. -The way I attack you is gonna look unorthidoxed. New Hotness: Anathema-, K-Dawg, Talon, dirt.

9th Dec 2003, 08:12 PM	#7
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	I've loved everything aout this game so far. Especially the real time shadows (even though they sometimes drop me to 15fps ). I'm sure we'll be seeing a couple patches (or more) to fix the ini and things, It looks like they didn't have time to release any of the debugging code or anything before release...stupid Eidos must have been chomping at the bit with it. Still it's a great game. I love it. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

9th Dec 2003, 11:15 AM	#3
Hedge Wish I was with her Join Date: Sep. 12th, 2003 Location: out in the boonies Posts: 287	Ion Storm did something funny with the ini files in the final release. When you start the game a set you options in the menu, everything is cool, but then you start the game again, the menu is running at the default resolution. This problem really erked me until I loaded a saved game. Then all my saved settings came back. Does that make sense? It will only use your settings in the game, the menu will always use the default settings. I still very much like this game.

9th Dec 2003, 08:04 PM	#6
Hedge Wish I was with her Join Date: Sep. 12th, 2003 Location: out in the boonies Posts: 287	Actually, I haven't found the problems that existed in the demo in the final version. Some of the things that people thought to be problems were really just Ion Storms weird way of doing things. I think some people just want to rip on the game because they a whinners and have nothing else to do.

28th Dec 2003, 01:10 PM	#9
Rocket_Magnet All I need is a certain trigger Join Date: Sep. 29th, 2002 Location: Manchester,ENG Posts: 712	beer: aye that adds a faction into it, and the plot thickends... i completed it one way, but theres a good few more to do yet __________________

29th Dec 2003, 11:31 AM	#10
CiD I'm on Offense! Join Date: Dec. 28th, 2003 Posts: 449	it is a truly great game.ive found 5 endings so far(1 is kind of a joke,IMO).playing through again to see if there are any other variations to the story line.very addicting.

25th Feb 2004, 11:41 AM	#11
RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies Join Date: Feb. 2nd, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,215	I'm nearing the end of the game now, my first run through. Pros: This is pure Deus Ex in terms of style of story. Complicated, but in a fun, nearly campy way - the multiple conspiracies and even the high brow philosophy is pure entertainment, not annoying dribble. Immersion is quite high, and that "intimate" quality to the levels Spector spoke of is definately in full effect. Production values for the voices, artwork, etc. seem quite high - and there's no skimping on work to allow for multiple outcomes to nearly any scenario, no matter how remote it might seem ( killing a character early in the game, etc ) Some of the tie-ins and inside jokes to the first game are glorious. Combat is usually highly fun, especially later on in the game when you are properly bio-modded up and can seriously whup ass. Cons: Unified ammo can drain all your weapons at once. Lack of skill tree lowers character development and flexibility. Performance hog. Overall, it's a good to great game. I argue heavily against people who say it's too short. If you beat this game in 10 hours, as I've heard some reviewers quote, you aren't seeing all of the game. This isn't a pure shooter, the goal isn't to get to the end as quickly as possible. I can half agree with some of oversimplification complaints. The unified ammo is lamentable and the lack of Spector's innovative skill system is regrettable. I hacked around the ammo with a simple ini tweak that simply fills my ammo full when I pick up any clip. (I'm playing on realism mode and it's standard setting empties your ammo pretty much after any fight). The lack of skills isn't really a negative to the game as it plays, but if it were included it would expand the replayability even more. I had no problems with the GUI or the Inventory screens at all. I do regret that Ion Storm fiddled with the renderer so much. Yes, some of the scenes look great - but it caps the performance too much and was apparently the root cause of no DeusED being shipped. SP and side missions would be fun to make here. __________________ _____________________________ I remember old school. Champion of Glaucoma Inducing Radiation Everywhere

26th Feb 2004, 07:47 PM	#12
tool BuFs #1 mom Join Date: Oct. 31st, 2001 Location: Up my ass Posts: 13,367	I'm stuck on it, I am on the Germany level, the mission where you go to the templar church and have to get that infomation that is inside the church. I got the infomation but now I am lost. I can't seem to find the way back to the German city.

27th Feb 2004, 10:33 AM	#13
RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies Join Date: Feb. 2nd, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,215	You've saved Holiness/Donna? Or am I thinking the wrong place. Also - did the Mag Rail secondary work for anyone? I swear I never shot through a single wall. __________________ _____________________________ I remember old school. Champion of Glaucoma Inducing Radiation Everywhere

27th Feb 2004, 06:44 PM	#14
tool BuFs #1 mom Join Date: Oct. 31st, 2001 Location: Up my ass Posts: 13,367	Ok I found out what to do. I never tried the mag rail, i'm afraid to because it might waste all my ammo.

27th Feb 2004, 07:24 PM	#15
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,290	I shot through the wall on the level in the airport place to get rid of people in the locked dock because I kept getting killed climbing up the ladder (where you save Paul). Worked nicely I guess, it does waste all your ammo. __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

28th Feb 2004, 10:52 AM	#16
RegularX Master of Dagoth Lies Join Date: Feb. 2nd, 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,215	I hadn't realzied it was only EMP __________________ _____________________________ I remember old school. Champion of Glaucoma Inducing Radiation Everywhere

31st Jan 2006, 09:47 PM	#17
SystemShock@dls.pipex Team Orbit Join Date: Jan. 31st, 2006 Location: UK Posts: 16	The one thing that made me screem was no unreal ed for it ...... so no user made content...it locked up tighter then the crown gews ...fools....that the quickist way to hit the bargin bins.

8th Feb 2006, 11:29 PM	#18
wildfrogman Registered User Join Date: Sep. 30th, 2001 Location: usa Posts: 96	lol, this brings back memories...from two years ago... Anyways, how'd you find a 2 year old thread? Its a much better game once patched than when released, runs great on ati cards and is cheap yet makes you think a bit...weird storyline. __________________ I'm going to get cable soon...yay! sure beats 26k dialup

20th Feb 2006, 01:56 PM	#19
SystemShock@dls.pipex Team Orbit Join Date: Jan. 31st, 2006 Location: UK Posts: 16	See the little robot dog...and the blue police phone box over there..

20th Feb 2006, 07:56 PM	#20
Angel_Mapper Noblesse Oblige Join Date: Jun. 17th, 2001 Location: Cape Suzette Posts: 3,491	Deus Ex 2 was a pretty fun game, but the story wasn't that good. By the end I didn't really care who won. __________________ Unreal Development Kit Game Programming with UnrealScript: Beginner’s Guide Stubborn Horse Studios - Angel Mapper To have said goodbye to things!

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