Dear BuF'ers, I'm in desperate need for help.

phillys · 14th Nov 2003, 07:09 AM

Dearest BuF'ers,

As some of you might have known in IRC, I'm currently in charge of doing a website for a youth group in my town. Well, I have done one before using MS Frontpage and seriously, it looks like sht.

So, with 1 more month to go, I would like to design v2.0 of that website. The problem is, I only know the very basic of HTML and I intend to do a website that looks neat, clean and cool. With this thread I've posted a picture of how I wanted my website to look like and I need some help as in where can I find resources to help me to do/design that kind of website.

Currently, I'm facing so many problems. I do not know how to set link buttons and stuff...all I currently know is drawing with photoshop and that is all I can do. I need to know where to learn that kind of stuff that will help me to design that kind of website.

I've been told to 'google' for HTML tutorials but I really couldnt find tutorials that are suitable for me/would help me to do it. I know basic stuff like linking to images and stuff but I do not know how to setup a menu of link buttons, align them and stuff....I'm not sure what you guys would think but I plan to do it in the following order:-

1. I would first create a template using photoshop(or whatever way. I really dont know how)
2. I would start creating the contents (this is the hard part cause I dont know much about HTML. my best bet would be using Dreamweaver and open my template and from there I type out how I want my website to look like.

I'm mighty confused and I'm very disappointed with myself. Please help me. I need to know how to create a template and then from there I shall create my website. I'm so freaking confused and I dont know where to start...I think I'm going to cry...

Hunter · 14th Nov 2003, 07:12 AM

i can work on graphics, your welcome to take the credit.

look in the digital design resources thread

Ferd · 14th Nov 2003, 07:16 AM

The first and single time I did a website it was with frames and 3 separated flash menus, using Flash is very intuitive... but for the rest you need experience, to keep it clean and neat. It's just experience, you´ll learn.

And BuFers will help you

GeneticFreak · 14th Nov 2003, 08:33 AM

dude, get macromedia studio MX. that's all you'll ever need to get a cool site up and running within hours

phillys · 14th Nov 2003, 09:01 AM

thanks you guys so much for your replies..

well, as for the graphics thingy, i think i could handle it but the problem is making all the graphics that i've created using photoshop and making them aligned and stuff into a navigation menu kind of thing. do you get what i mean? i hope you guys do

annyway, ill keep posting here with all my crap and gibberish stuff..check your pm, scum

phillys · 14th Nov 2003, 10:40 AM

thanks scum

i gtg and sleep now. so, ill post tomorrow

Kaligraphic · 15th Nov 2003, 02:32 AM

PF, what is the structure of the site? i.e., what is the content?

(I personally use html-kit from www.chami.com to write html. I like that it does that autocomplete dealy, and that it changes the color of text for quoted strings (good for checking that I've escaped all quote marks), php blocks, and that sort of good stuff.)

And I would suggest using CSS for the boxes instead of tables for two reasons. 1: the w3c says it's better. 2: it just plain looks snazzier.

I'm learning html/css myself right now, so maybe we can compare notes. (PM if interested)

phillys · 15th Nov 2003, 05:44 AM

Kali, at this moment I'm typing a pm to you and pls do check it once i send it over

phillys · 15th Nov 2003, 08:56 AM

scum, that site of yours looks pretty leet

btw, im embarking upon the journey of learning CSS cause from all the tutorials that i've found on the net, it seems like CSS is what i've been looking for

KliwX · 15th Nov 2003, 09:02 AM

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Latent Image · 15th Nov 2003, 09:15 AM

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http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp

phillys · 15th Nov 2003, 10:18 PM

ahh...I'm currently looking for web pages that teaches me how to create my own 'layouts' using CSS cause it looks pretty snazzy and 'neat'. seriously, where do I start? after checking out the 'guide' at glassdog.com, I now have a 'basic' guideline on the usage of CSS. It's really cool and you have more control over it. plus, it's easier to understand than creating tables

... suggestions anyone?

phillys · 15th Nov 2003, 10:56 PM

alright, ill be using the 3 column "holy grail" CSS layout posted on glish.com with me modifying a couple of codes withing it. yes, it's really flexible and right now, I like what I see

btw, where can I get a reliable and free shoutbox kind of thing? yeah, one that also dont send me spams and stuff...thanks!

phillys · 16th Nov 2003, 09:42 AM

guys, pls visit http://www.youth-fellowship.vze.com and tell me what you think. special thanks to a couple of fellas and their names can be found on the index.html source

btw, pls remember that the site is still in beta 1 stage and ill be making many changes from time to time.

14th Nov 2003, 07:12 AM	#2
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15th Nov 2003, 02:32 AM	#7
Kaligraphic Charles leChaud is my hero Join Date: Oct. 22nd, 2002 Location: Everywhere. Posts: 2,505	PF, what is the structure of the site? i.e., what is the content? (I personally use html-kit from www.chami.com to write html. I like that it does that autocomplete dealy, and that it changes the color of text for quoted strings (good for checking that I've escaped all quote marks), php blocks, and that sort of good stuff.) And I would suggest using CSS for the boxes instead of tables for two reasons. 1: the w3c says it's better. 2: it just plain looks snazzier. I'm learning html/css myself right now, so maybe we can compare notes. (PM if interested) __________________ find / -name 'base' \|xargs chown -R us && mv zig greatjustice

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14th Nov 2003, 09:01 AM	#5
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	thanks you guys so much for your replies.. well, as for the graphics thingy, i think i could handle it but the problem is making all the graphics that i've created using photoshop and making them aligned and stuff into a navigation menu kind of thing. do you get what i mean? i hope you guys do annyway, ill keep posting here with all my crap and gibberish stuff..check your pm, scum

14th Nov 2003, 10:40 AM	#6
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	thanks scum i gtg and sleep now. so, ill post tomorrow

15th Nov 2003, 05:44 AM	#8
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	Kali, at this moment I'm typing a pm to you and pls do check it once i send it over

15th Nov 2003, 08:56 AM	#9
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	scum, that site of yours looks pretty leet btw, im embarking upon the journey of learning CSS cause from all the tutorials that i've found on the net, it seems like CSS is what i've been looking for

15th Nov 2003, 09:02 AM	#10
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15th Nov 2003, 10:18 PM	#12
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	ahh...I'm currently looking for web pages that teaches me how to create my own 'layouts' using CSS cause it looks pretty snazzy and 'neat'. seriously, where do I start? after checking out the 'guide' at glassdog.com, I now have a 'basic' guideline on the usage of CSS. It's really cool and you have more control over it. plus, it's easier to understand than creating tables ... suggestions anyone?

15th Nov 2003, 10:56 PM	#13
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	alright, ill be using the 3 column "holy grail" CSS layout posted on glish.com with me modifying a couple of codes withing it. yes, it's really flexible and right now, I like what I see btw, where can I get a reliable and free shoutbox kind of thing? yeah, one that also dont send me spams and stuff...thanks!

16th Nov 2003, 09:42 AM	#14
phillys Continuing the Legacy.... Join Date: Aug. 31st, 2001 Location: Home @ Malaysia Posts: 2,794	guys, pls visit http://www.youth-fellowship.vze.com and tell me what you think. special thanks to a couple of fellas and their names can be found on the index.html source btw, pls remember that the site is still in beta 1 stage and ill be making many changes from time to time.

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