slight annoying thing...

DeaJae · 29th Jun 2003, 05:39 PM

LPBs!!!!

joke...

i recently upgraded my core system upto an XP2600 (333mhz)with a MSi KT4V-L (MS-6712) along with 512mb of Corsair DDR PC2700 (333mhz).
with this upgrade i seem to have found UT2k3 has gained annoyances rather than more speed (only about a 20/30fps increase on some maps). it now Stutters when connecting to servers, quite badly. about 3 or 4 times after spawning then turning around.
is this a common problem? easily fixable?

or did i choose a crappy motherboard?

*Sir_Brizz* · 29th Jun 2003, 08:27 PM

you certainly could have done better....but still! Are you turning up your details too high or something???

Renegade Retard · 29th Jun 2003, 08:43 PM

what vid card are you using?

*Sir_Brizz* · 29th Jun 2003, 09:28 PM

you think that is annoying try the minigun! It's the gun for n00b sodomizers! I think maybe we should add my mutator to the Web that replaces it with the flamethrower

DeaJae · 29th Jun 2003, 10:05 PM

sorry... should of put the other bits in as well.

XP home SP1.
Geforce4 TI-4800 (leadtek) with 43.51 and 44.01 drivers. at 8x..
SBLive (possible SB/Via PCI timing/latency conflict MkII?)
only detail i changed from my orginal ut2k3 setup is Triplebuffering... i think.

Hanover_Fist · 29th Jun 2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir_Brizz

you think that is annoying try the minigun! It's the gun for n00b sodomizers! I think maybe we should add my mutator to the Web that replaces it with the flamethrower

So that was you on ReconGamer saying all that?

Brizz, the answer to the Mini is the Shield, just pull it up and plow through or run for cover.

It absorbs the mini shots and renders it practically useless.

Dead_Hood · 30th Jun 2003, 02:40 AM

Sounds to me like you aren't running your RAM at it's fastest timings. Get into you BIOS and make sure that everything is running as fast as possible. If you have any questions, consult The BIOS Optimization Guide. This is THE deffinitive BIOS guide, and has most every BIOS option covered.

pospi · 30th Jun 2003, 04:46 AM

I have the same (or similar) problem.

When i start a game i get a jitter every time the noise plays for a second ticking over. Then as i spawn i get another one.

Also, every 5 minutes or so ingame (in ANY 3d accelerated game for that matter, even half-life) i get about 5 seconds of complete lag. I'm talking about 3fps here.

I think maybe theres something wrong with my mobo cos it doesnt get better when i change graphics cards.

Specs:
P4 2.4Ghz, 768Mb corsair ram, GF4TI4280 (with all that stupid amounts of tv in out stuff)

does anyone know what i'm doing wrong, or what's broken?

Radiosity · 30th Jun 2003, 05:04 AM

It's most likely the mobo in both cases - VIA chipsets suck badly in every respect.

DeaJae · 30th Jun 2003, 06:42 PM

none of those bios entries appear in my BIOS. all i have is:
DDR speed (set at 333mhz)
CAS (at 2.5, im sure this is what the sticker on the memory said)
Voltage
termination
burst length
etc..

TWD · 30th Jun 2003, 08:26 PM

I hate the minigun. We were in electric fields and survey says just kept doing that. If I got anywhere on his side of the map I'd be dead within seconds. Then he took the flag hid in the bottom area and threw flak like mad at anyone comming through. They really need to make it so that lift in there will let you up or down.

Useing the shildgun helps but it does not make it worthless. Not by far. The shieldgun will only prolong your almost sure death. Unless it's in a really cramped map.

DeaJae · 30th Jun 2003, 09:06 PM

brizz, TWD and Hanover... get that out of my problem thread

but seriously guys... minigun sucks

edhe · 30th Jun 2003, 09:48 PM

I get this too, i accost my lack of ram with it, but i don't know what it really is. Gets worse with more details, i'm thinking it may be memory stuff, agp aperture? mobo drivers i don't know.

I just think it's caching, but god knows how to sort it.

Dead_Hood · 30th Jun 2003, 09:53 PM

Well, the only thing I can think of is to get a different mobo. Send back that KT400 board and get an nForce2 board. They are the highest performing AMD boards hands down and come with all sorts of extras if you want them. PriceGrabber has them for as little as $66.53 w/o shipping.

*Sir_Brizz* · 1st Jul 2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanover_Fist

So that was you on ReconGamer saying all that?

Brizz, the answer to the Mini is the Shield, just pull it up and plow through or run for cover.

It absorbs the mini shots and renders it practically useless.

Actually I spam that on ReconGamer all the time because it makes people angry and they make mistakes when they are angry.

Like TWD said the shield only prolongs your life. Using the shield gun only gives you a chance to run away and get a tactical advantage rather than keep you alive throughout a firefight. What I hate about it is that no other gun counters it. You have to have direct hits with the LG to the head, rox at the feet or a combo already popping before they start shooting to get rid of it. Basically, it just is lame

As for the point of this thread. REPLACE YOUR MOBO WITH SOMETHING REAL.

have a nice day

DaBeatard · 1st Jul 2003, 09:13 PM

minigun

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeaJae

it now Stutters when connecting to servers, quite badly. about 3 or 4 times after spawning then turning around.
is this a common problem? easily fixable?

Anyways, DEAJAE, does this stuttering go away after a couple of seconds for you? Because, if it does, than I don't think you have a problem. This happens to me too, and I think that I've read on other forums that this happens to other people too.
If the stuttering doesn't go away then...umm...the minigun sucks...

DeaJae · 1st Jul 2003, 09:19 PM

well, just tried it offline with
triplebuffering = off
engine cache = 256mb
direct3d precache = on

no stuttering at all.

it disappeared after about 5 to 30 seconds, but the minigun still sucks.

still stuttering online but alot less than it was.

pospi · 1st Jul 2003, 10:14 PM

dont know if its the mobo, i have an asus p4533-MX not what you have.
hmmm well.. i'll try your technique anyway but i think all that does is put so much data in memory that having a bad AGP bus doesnt matter...

*Sir_Brizz* · 2nd Jul 2003, 06:59 PM

lol sorry for the hijack

[MUTTS] Hiteche5 · 2nd Jul 2003, 07:20 PM

I think the stuttering may be due to precaching on your vid card. Try setting them to off. Another thing to check may be your hard drive. There is settings that cause your hard drive to take suck up you L1 and L2 cache.

29th Jun 2003, 05:39 PM	#1
DeaJae taking a month's break Join Date: May. 7th, 2001 Location: England Posts: 2,882	slight annoying thing... LPBs!!!! joke... i recently upgraded my core system upto an XP2600 (333mhz)with a MSi KT4V-L (MS-6712) along with 512mb of Corsair DDR PC2700 (333mhz). with this upgrade i seem to have found UT2k3 has gained annoyances rather than more speed (only about a 20/30fps increase on some maps). it now Stutters when connecting to servers, quite badly. about 3 or 4 times after spawning then turning around. is this a common problem? easily fixable? or did i choose a crappy motherboard? __________________ I SellZ computers naow Still down, not out.. fighting the creek of life with no paddles.

29th Jun 2003, 08:27 PM	#2
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,267	you certainly could have done better....but still! Are you turning up your details too high or something??? __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

29th Jun 2003, 08:43 PM	#3
Renegade Retard Defender of the newbie Join Date: Dec. 18th, 2002 Location: TX Posts: 6,590	what vid card are you using? __________________ As usual, Ren is right. - Taleweaver www.clanci.net

29th Jun 2003, 09:28 PM	#4
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,267	you think that is annoying try the minigun! It's the gun for n00b sodomizers! I think maybe we should add my mutator to the Web that replaces it with the flamethrower __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

29th Jun 2003, 10:05 PM	#5
DeaJae taking a month's break Join Date: May. 7th, 2001 Location: England Posts: 2,882	sorry... should of put the other bits in as well. XP home SP1. Geforce4 TI-4800 (leadtek) with 43.51 and 44.01 drivers. at 8x.. SBLive (possible SB/Via PCI timing/latency conflict MkII?) only detail i changed from my orginal ut2k3 setup is Triplebuffering... i think. __________________ I SellZ computers naow Still down, not out.. fighting the creek of life with no paddles.

30th Jun 2003, 02:40 AM	#7
Dead_Hood The Seventh Sign Join Date: Apr. 24th, 2001 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 308	Sounds to me like you aren't running your RAM at it's fastest timings. Get into you BIOS and make sure that everything is running as fast as possible. If you have any questions, consult The BIOS Optimization Guide. This is THE deffinitive BIOS guide, and has most every BIOS option covered. __________________ In darkness together, we're bringing the light. In darkness together, we are forming. The fire tomorrow is born of the night. In darkness together, we ignite.

30th Jun 2003, 04:46 AM	#8
pospi Registered User Join Date: Jun. 30th, 2003 Posts: 298	I have the same (or similar) problem. When i start a game i get a jitter every time the noise plays for a second ticking over. Then as i spawn i get another one. Also, every 5 minutes or so ingame (in ANY 3d accelerated game for that matter, even half-life) i get about 5 seconds of complete lag. I'm talking about 3fps here. I think maybe theres something wrong with my mobo cos it doesnt get better when i change graphics cards. Specs: P4 2.4Ghz, 768Mb corsair ram, GF4TI4280 (with all that stupid amounts of tv in out stuff) does anyone know what i'm doing wrong, or what's broken?

30th Jun 2003, 05:04 AM	#9
Radiosity Minty Fresh! Join Date: Jan. 3rd, 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,213	It's most likely the mobo in both cases - VIA chipsets suck badly in every respect.

30th Jun 2003, 06:42 PM	#10
DeaJae taking a month's break Join Date: May. 7th, 2001 Location: England Posts: 2,882	none of those bios entries appear in my BIOS. all i have is: DDR speed (set at 333mhz) CAS (at 2.5, im sure this is what the sticker on the memory said) Voltage termination burst length etc.. __________________ I SellZ computers naow Still down, not out.. fighting the creek of life with no paddles.

30th Jun 2003, 08:26 PM	#11
TWD Cute and Cuddly Join Date: Aug. 2nd, 2000 Location: Salt Lake City UT Posts: 7,261	I hate the minigun. We were in electric fields and survey says just kept doing that. If I got anywhere on his side of the map I'd be dead within seconds. Then he took the flag hid in the bottom area and threw flak like mad at anyone comming through. They really need to make it so that lift in there will let you up or down. Useing the shildgun helps but it does not make it worthless. Not by far. The shieldgun will only prolong your almost sure death. Unless it's in a really cramped map. __________________ Last edited by TWD; 30th Jun 2003 at 08:27 PM.

30th Jun 2003, 09:06 PM	#12
DeaJae taking a month's break Join Date: May. 7th, 2001 Location: England Posts: 2,882	brizz, TWD and Hanover... get that out of my problem thread but seriously guys... minigun sucks __________________ I SellZ computers naow Still down, not out.. fighting the creek of life with no paddles.

30th Jun 2003, 09:48 PM	#13
edhe ..dadhe.. Join Date: Jun. 12th, 2000 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,282	I get this too, i accost my lack of ram with it, but i don't know what it really is. Gets worse with more details, i'm thinking it may be memory stuff, agp aperture? mobo drivers i don't know. I just think it's caching, but god knows how to sort it. __________________ Get your own Gamercard Sig.

30th Jun 2003, 09:53 PM	#14
Dead_Hood The Seventh Sign Join Date: Apr. 24th, 2001 Location: 123 Fake Street Posts: 308	Well, the only thing I can think of is to get a different mobo. Send back that KT400 board and get an nForce2 board. They are the highest performing AMD boards hands down and come with all sorts of extras if you want them. PriceGrabber has them for as little as $66.53 w/o shipping. __________________ In darkness together, we're bringing the light. In darkness together, we are forming. The fire tomorrow is born of the night. In darkness together, we ignite.

1st Jul 2003, 09:19 PM	#17
DeaJae taking a month's break Join Date: May. 7th, 2001 Location: England Posts: 2,882	well, just tried it offline with triplebuffering = off engine cache = 256mb direct3d precache = on no stuttering at all. it disappeared after about 5 to 30 seconds, but the minigun still sucks. still stuttering online but alot less than it was. __________________ I SellZ computers naow Still down, not out.. fighting the creek of life with no paddles. Last edited by DeaJae; 1st Jul 2003 at 09:33 PM.

1st Jul 2003, 10:14 PM	#18
pospi Registered User Join Date: Jun. 30th, 2003 Posts: 298	dont know if its the mobo, i have an asus p4533-MX not what you have. hmmm well.. i'll try your technique anyway but i think all that does is put so much data in memory that having a bad AGP bus doesnt matter...

2nd Jul 2003, 06:59 PM	#19
Sir_Brizz More Than Just Mad Skill Join Date: Feb. 3rd, 2000 Location: >:3 Posts: 25,267	lol sorry for the hijack __________________ 64 65 61 74 68 62 6f 6f 67 65 72 73 20 6d 6f 74 68 65 72 20 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 Liandri Archives - A veritable smorgasbord of information about the Unreal series If Titanic taught me anything, it's to never let go until you're a frozen corpse staring hopelessly into a barren horizon.

2nd Jul 2003, 07:20 PM	#20
[MUTTS] Hiteche5 Rodney-like Join Date: Jun. 15th, 2000 Location: Groton, Connecticut....again Posts: 342	I think the stuttering may be due to precaching on your vid card. Try setting them to off. Another thing to check may be your hard drive. There is settings that cause your hard drive to take suck up you L1 and L2 cache. __________________ Sigh

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