Need some help with bot pathing

OpFor · 26th Jun 2003, 05:47 PM

Right now I'm currently trying to redo the bot pathing in EP2, and I need some help on bot pathing. I've started some basic stuff, but I was wondering is someone else with a little more skill could do some stuff for me. You *must* have dm-inf-macedonia and grozny installed as it uses sound and some textures from them (un officially for now, Im gunna try soon to get Old Geezers permission to use them). E-mail me at OpFor@mail.com if you have nothing better to do

Please!

Freon · 27th Jun 2003, 01:35 AM

uuh i don't think you need a formal autorization. many maps use his textures. anyway, that's already nice to ask

what's your prolem exactly, i don't really have the time to help you, but i could probably give you some tips

Fat Marrow · 27th Jun 2003, 04:29 AM

In my experience, bot-pathing just doesn't work

That said, while playing around with Spooge's Reactor Sector 4, I saw he had used LiftCentres and LiftExits in certain tight spots, rather than path nodes. I thought that would be a nifty tip to pass on (assuming it works).

das_ben · 27th Jun 2003, 05:25 AM

LiftExits and LiftCenters work great. I attached an example screenshot to show how to use them. Just make sure the LiftCenter tag is the same as the two LiftExit tags [in the properties]. You can find the actors in the actor browser under NavigationPoint. Best use for them are tight hallways/doors, but they're also useful for making the bots go over very steep brushes [ladders for instant].

Freon · 27th Jun 2003, 12:11 PM

wow never thought of using that for a door. i've already done that for ladders/stairs ... and lifts though

w00p · 27th Jun 2003, 01:48 PM

heh, now atleast I know what properties should be the same. I used to just make all enterable fields have the same text with those actors.

No kidding!

OpFor · 27th Jun 2003, 01:55 PM

Cool idea guys! Even though I've been mapping for about 2 years now Im still learning alot of stuff

Well, I guess I'll try and upload ep2beta then, and let you guys take a looksy-poo.

OpFor · 27th Jun 2003, 01:55 PM

Ok, wtf is up with attachments? bah, well e-mail for it, as I don't want anyone to host it yet.

das_ben · 28th Jun 2003, 02:02 AM

Feel free to send me a copy to reaper@planetunreal.com

.

fist_mlrs · 29th Jun 2003, 03:01 AM

i might add that the lift center/lift exit thing can become a major performance killer if you use it often, try to use pathnodes whenever possible. in fmkasbah i needed to use lots of lift ceners/exits to get the bots moving at all as basicly every place is to narrow for the engine to connect the pathnodes. it ended up with an 30% performance loss so i had to remove the hole bot support (beside some random pathnodes so mutators will work)

26th Jun 2003, 05:47 PM	#1
OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K. Join Date: Apr. 26th, 2001 Posts: 1,198	Need some help with bot pathing Right now I'm currently trying to redo the bot pathing in EP2, and I need some help on bot pathing. I've started some basic stuff, but I was wondering is someone else with a little more skill could do some stuff for me. You must have dm-inf-macedonia and grozny installed as it uses sound and some textures from them (un officially for now, Im gunna try soon to get Old Geezers permission to use them). E-mail me at OpFor@mail.com if you have nothing better to do Please! __________________ "You like what you see, its hard to explain."- The Strokes

27th Jun 2003, 01:35 AM	#2
Freon Braaaaiinss... Join Date: Jan. 27th, 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,550	uuh i don't think you need a formal autorization. many maps use his textures. anyway, that's already nice to ask what's your prolem exactly, i don't really have the time to help you, but i could probably give you some tips __________________ "I don't have a **ing clue why I'm wasting precious brain cells arguing with a man who names himself after the fluid that runs behind my fridge." - BadMojo Infiltration - Vega clan - dichlorodifluoromethane **

27th Jun 2003, 12:11 PM	#5
Freon Braaaaiinss... Join Date: Jan. 27th, 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,550	wow never thought of using that for a door. i've already done that for ladders/stairs ... and lifts though __________________ "I don't have a **ing clue why I'm wasting precious brain cells arguing with a man who names himself after the fluid that runs behind my fridge." - BadMojo Infiltration - Vega clan - dichlorodifluoromethane **

27th Jun 2003, 01:48 PM	#6
w00p Windows at its best Join Date: Oct. 22nd, 2001 Location: That dumpster in your backyard. (IE, Belgium) Posts: 842	heh, now atleast I know what properties should be the same. I used to just make all enterable fields have the same text with those actors. No kidding! __________________ In UT, 5 headshots in a row is called a "Monsterkill", in Q3 its "Excellent", in CS its "kicked by console"

27th Jun 2003, 01:55 PM	#7
OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K. Join Date: Apr. 26th, 2001 Posts: 1,198	Cool idea guys! Even though I've been mapping for about 2 years now Im still learning alot of stuff Well, I guess I'll try and upload ep2beta then, and let you guys take a looksy-poo. __________________ "You like what you see, its hard to explain."- The Strokes

27th Jun 2003, 04:29 AM	#3
Fat Marrow Vegetable Join Date: Feb. 27th, 2002 Location: London Posts: 738	In my experience, bot-pathing just doesn't work That said, while playing around with Spooge's Reactor Sector 4, I saw he had used LiftCentres and LiftExits in certain tight spots, rather than path nodes. I thought that would be a nifty tip to pass on (assuming it works).

28th Jun 2003, 02:02 AM	#9
das_ben Concerned. Join Date: Feb. 11th, 2000 Location: Teutonia Posts: 5,874	Feel free to send me a copy to reaper@planetunreal.com . __________________ - Ben. [Flickr] \| [Blog] \| [Tumblr]

29th Jun 2003, 03:01 AM	#10
fist_mlrs that other guy Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2001 Location: Zittau, Germany Posts: 1,495	i might add that the lift center/lift exit thing can become a major performance killer if you use it often, try to use pathnodes whenever possible. in fmkasbah i needed to use lots of lift ceners/exits to get the bots moving at all as basicly every place is to narrow for the engine to connect the pathnodes. it ended up with an 30% performance loss so i had to remove the hole bot support (beside some random pathnodes so mutators will work) __________________ www.sentrystudios.net

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