Fa Mas

MadWolf · 6th Mar 2002, 09:55 AM

Fa Mas With M203?
Is It Possible??
(picture taken from op. Flashpoint, sorry if it is dark)

Puncher · 6th Mar 2002, 10:14 AM

Yes, although the G2 version has a "lip" on the front which normally prevents of a M203. Ask Shakken for more detail

ShakKen · 6th Mar 2002, 10:31 AM

Yep, it's possible. But that's most certainly the wrong mount, and the cocking handle is backwards.

RAZZ · 6th Mar 2002, 12:08 PM

no, ofp is right
is everyone in france thats wrong

[/sarcasm]

mount looks semi correct to me.
well, accurate as anything in that game gets anyways.

ShakKen · 6th Mar 2002, 12:16 PM

RAZZ: That's why I'm a Special Operations Consultant and you're not

You can't use the FAMAS F1 mount on a G2 because of the lip at the end of the lower receiver(not to mention the mounting slot beneath the handguard has been redesigned.)

Holy · 6th Mar 2002, 12:19 PM

it's G1 on razz's pic, right ?

RAZZ · 6th Mar 2002, 01:51 PM

yup, I think so
g2 has that larger handguard

why stick with a 203 tho?

ShakKen · 6th Mar 2002, 07:50 PM

Holy:G1s never entered French service

Scythe · 6th Mar 2002, 08:36 PM

why dont we just use the rifle rocket thingy that razz had in his pic? looks awesome

SaraP · 6th Mar 2002, 08:41 PM

That's a rifle grenade. Rifle grenades kick ass.

Tiffy · 6th Mar 2002, 10:42 PM

Thats really going to hurt if he pulls the trigger. Those bloody things kick like a mule, infact the 7.62 Rifle Grenades where fired with the butt of the rifle on the ground, not in your shoulder.

Hes going to know what s hes been doing tomorrow

SaraP · 6th Mar 2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tiffy
Thats really going to hurt if he pulls the trigger. Those bloody things kick like a mule, infact the 7.62 Rifle Grenades where fired with the butt of the rifle on the ground, not in your shoulder.

Hes going to know what s hes been doing tomorrow

Really? So it's kinda like a mini-mortar?

Tiffy · 7th Mar 2002, 11:40 AM

Yep, just like a mini mortar. Thata shoot thru rifle greande. You fire a normal round that passes through the centre of the rifle greande. As it passes through it initiates the propellant charge in the greande which then flies to the target.

The British Army use a bullet trap greande, but the priciples exactly the same.

The felt recoil from a 5.56mm rifle greande is considerable, the energy being around 100J instead of the normal 4J when firing the British Rifle Grenade from the L85 rifle. Thats like a felt recoil 20 times greater.

RAZZ · 7th Mar 2002, 04:50 PM

question: on a shoot through grenade like that one, shouldent the recoil be lower?
and what about blowback? that guys got no eye protection.
cause it sounds to me like more of an rpg in principle.

nother silly question, how does one actually aim a famas rifle grenade?
(of the few photos I got, I see nothing looking like a ladder site)

Tiffy · 7th Mar 2002, 09:00 PM

You use the rifles normal sight to aim, you can get a sight unit but there never fitted. You don't shoot rifle grenades over long distances, so the rifle sights will do.

The propelling charge is all expended by the time the grenade leaves the end of the barrel so there is no 'blow back' effect at all.

The recoil is cause by the grenades propellant charge and NOT by the round. So shooting through or in to, or even using a blank to fire the grenade isn't going to effect the recoil much. The shoot through type of grenade are shorter ranged and less accurate as well as being more expensive and harder to make. Hence they are a bit of a rearity. I was surprised to see that this French grenade was shoot through. Bullet trap grenades are by far the most common type.

asmodeus · 7th Mar 2002, 09:48 PM

I can't believe they got the cocking handle wrong....

SaraP · 8th Mar 2002, 01:38 AM

So, the rifle shot just triggers the grenade? I always thought the grenade was propelled BY the rifle...oops, on second thought, there's no way a teeny little rifle cartridge has enough power to propel a bigass grenade like that. Oops!

DamienW · 8th Mar 2002, 02:55 AM

Erh, is that FAMAS in standard OFP, or is it in a mod ?

Snakeye · 8th Mar 2002, 03:25 AM

To my knowledge it has to be a mod, since neither OFP nor Red Hammer has the FAMAS.

Snakeye

ShakKen · 8th Mar 2002, 03:47 AM

Doesn't surprise me that anything in Flashpoint is wrong. Bohemia managed to get forward assists on BOTH sides of the M16 from the get go.

Red Hammer is even more of a laugh (G36s didn't even exist in 1975, and wtf would it and AUGs be douing being toted by the yanks?).

Not to mention the mission scenarios can get pretty damned rediculous.

I could go on, but the Flashpoint worshipping bitches would stone me.

And for the record, If somebody says 'VBS-1', the Marines are after the engine, not the game.

6th Mar 2002, 09:55 AM	#1
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6th Mar 2002, 10:14 AM	#2
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6th Mar 2002, 12:08 PM	#4
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	no, ofp is right is everyone in france thats wrong [/sarcasm] mount looks semi correct to me. well, accurate as anything in that game gets anyways. __________________ HGF construction Crew

6th Mar 2002, 01:51 PM	#7
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	yup, I think so g2 has that larger handguard why stick with a 203 tho? __________________ HGF construction Crew Last edited by RAZZ; 6th Mar 2002 at 02:08 PM.

6th Mar 2002, 08:36 PM	#9
Scythe I'd rather die than give you control. Join Date: Jan. 13th, 2001 Location: about 30ft behind you. Posts: 544	why dont we just use the rifle rocket thingy that razz had in his pic? looks awesome __________________ "Long Live the Fighters!" - Paul Mua'dib

6th Mar 2002, 12:19 PM	#6
Holy Registered User Join Date: Jan. 9th, 2002 Location: France Posts: 7	it's G1 on razz's pic, right ?

6th Mar 2002, 08:41 PM	#10
SaraP Registered User Join Date: Feb. 12th, 2002 Location: The Land of the Governator Posts: 935	That's a rifle grenade. Rifle grenades kick ass. __________________ "The larger number of rounds carried inside the M9 and replacement magazines means that the soldier can stay in the fight longer before having to perfect his/her pistol throwing skills." - USGI M1911/M1911A1 Service Pistols: M1911 vs. M9 , author unspecified "A woman in Milton Township, Michigan, discovered a Glock .40-caliber pistol in her kitchen. She put it in the oven. That night, the family decided to cook a pizza and preheated the oven. There was a round in the chamber, and the intense heat caused the weapon to discharge, killing a male infant who was sleeping about 25 feet away in the living room." - The Major Cause of Gun Accidents -- People's Own Stupidity by Brian Carnell

6th Mar 2002, 10:42 PM	#11
Tiffy Back to champion the L85 Join Date: Sep. 15th, 2001 Posts: 518	Thats really going to hurt if he pulls the trigger. Those bloody things kick like a mule, infact the 7.62 Rifle Grenades where fired with the butt of the rifle on the ground, not in your shoulder. Hes going to know what s hes been doing tomorrow

7th Mar 2002, 11:40 AM	#13
Tiffy Back to champion the L85 Join Date: Sep. 15th, 2001 Posts: 518	Yep, just like a mini mortar. Thata shoot thru rifle greande. You fire a normal round that passes through the centre of the rifle greande. As it passes through it initiates the propellant charge in the greande which then flies to the target. The British Army use a bullet trap greande, but the priciples exactly the same. The felt recoil from a 5.56mm rifle greande is considerable, the energy being around 100J instead of the normal 4J when firing the British Rifle Grenade from the L85 rifle. Thats like a felt recoil 20 times greater.

7th Mar 2002, 04:50 PM	#14
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	question: on a shoot through grenade like that one, shouldent the recoil be lower? and what about blowback? that guys got no eye protection. cause it sounds to me like more of an rpg in principle. nother silly question, how does one actually aim a famas rifle grenade? (of the few photos I got, I see nothing looking like a ladder site) __________________ HGF construction Crew

7th Mar 2002, 09:00 PM	#15
Tiffy Back to champion the L85 Join Date: Sep. 15th, 2001 Posts: 518	You use the rifles normal sight to aim, you can get a sight unit but there never fitted. You don't shoot rifle grenades over long distances, so the rifle sights will do. The propelling charge is all expended by the time the grenade leaves the end of the barrel so there is no 'blow back' effect at all. The recoil is cause by the grenades propellant charge and NOT by the round. So shooting through or in to, or even using a blank to fire the grenade isn't going to effect the recoil much. The shoot through type of grenade are shorter ranged and less accurate as well as being more expensive and harder to make. Hence they are a bit of a rearity. I was surprised to see that this French grenade was shoot through. Bullet trap grenades are by far the most common type.

7th Mar 2002, 09:48 PM	#16
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	I can't believe they got the cocking handle wrong.... __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

8th Mar 2002, 01:38 AM	#17
SaraP Registered User Join Date: Feb. 12th, 2002 Location: The Land of the Governator Posts: 935	So, the rifle shot just triggers the grenade? I always thought the grenade was propelled BY the rifle...oops, on second thought, there's no way a teeny little rifle cartridge has enough power to propel a bigass grenade like that. Oops! __________________ "The larger number of rounds carried inside the M9 and replacement magazines means that the soldier can stay in the fight longer before having to perfect his/her pistol throwing skills." - USGI M1911/M1911A1 Service Pistols: M1911 vs. M9 , author unspecified "A woman in Milton Township, Michigan, discovered a Glock .40-caliber pistol in her kitchen. She put it in the oven. That night, the family decided to cook a pizza and preheated the oven. There was a round in the chamber, and the intense heat caused the weapon to discharge, killing a male infant who was sleeping about 25 feet away in the living room." - The Major Cause of Gun Accidents -- People's Own Stupidity by Brian Carnell

8th Mar 2002, 02:55 AM	#18
DamienW I'm no stranger to sarcasm, sir Join Date: Feb. 4th, 2001 Location: Bayonne, France Posts: 1,678	Erh, is that FAMAS in standard OFP, or is it in a mod ? __________________ Formerly known as Max Sterling

8th Mar 2002, 03:25 AM	#19
Snakeye Mk82HD Join Date: Jan. 28th, 2000 Location: Klagenfurt, Carinthia, Austria Posts: 1,898	To my knowledge it has to be a mod, since neither OFP nor Red Hammer has the FAMAS. Snakeye __________________ .30 'the elders tell of a young ball much like you. he bounced three meters in the air, then he bounced one point eight meters in the air, then he bounced four meters in the air. do I make myself clear?!' 'anything you do can get you killed, including doing nothing'

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