One major disadvantage

pshyco123456 · 9th Feb 2002, 03:43 PM

There only one thing i do not like about Infiltration. That is no crosshairs without zoom. In real life you know exactly where your shooting without scope. thats why they train the army. Just had to say somthing. don't take it the wrong way

:redeemer:

yurch · 9th Feb 2002, 03:44 PM

Try "aim" mode.

pshyco123456 · 9th Feb 2002, 04:16 PM

what you mean aimbot?? i'd be happy

J/K

NotBillMurray · 9th Feb 2002, 04:33 PM

Press your secondary fire/aim button.

And lo, he was shown the light that is...infiltration.

bastardb · 9th Feb 2002, 05:10 PM

i dont understand what he tried to say.... does he mean he wants a scope without crosshairs? why?

{GD}Ghost · 9th Feb 2002, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bastardb
i dont understand what he tried to say.... does he mean he wants a scope without crosshairs? why?

No, he's saying that he wants crosshairs.

I will now vacate the premesis while all hell breaks loose.

roboman35 · 9th Feb 2002, 05:25 PM

I think he's trying to say that IRL the army trains you to aim only with a scope. Or something like that at least....

bastardb · 9th Feb 2002, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pshyco123456
That is no crosshairs without zoom.

hmm i think i see now... thats pretty silly then

asmodeus · 9th Feb 2002, 06:07 PM

he means that you don'T have a crosshair when you don't have a scope

deeznuts · 9th Feb 2002, 06:10 PM

But we all know that in real life, you have this crosshair floating in front of your face that shows you where your bullets are going.

FiringAimlessly · 9th Feb 2002, 06:15 PM

A scope without those pesky obtrusive crosshairs would RULE!!!

Anyway...

Uh... no, most of the time it's pretty damn hard in game or in real life to tell where the hell your bullet will hit without at least looking down the barrel... that's part of the reason why most of the older FPSs (Doom, Wolfenstein, Rise of the Triad Quake 1) that don't normally use crosshairs (ps if you actually need the crosshairs in Quake 1 you really, really suck

) have the gun going down the middle of your view...

EDIT: Come to think of it, why don't most scopes have only a single notched line going down from the middle of the view and get rid of the mostly superfluous lines on the top and sides?

Mason · 9th Feb 2002, 06:31 PM

Yet another apparent example of an individual who tried Infiltration without reading the manual. Personally, I find anyone who doesn't look at the 'control' area with the key bindings a little odd...which this individual must have done, otherwise he would have noticed that Alt-Right Mouse does SOMETHING. That, or he's a troll.....either way, he'll learn or he will leave, either way, the community is saved!

pshyco123456 · 9th Feb 2002, 06:41 PM

What i mean is that the army trains men not to always use scopes. they are trained to shoot & hit without scopes. I mean you should be able to have crosshairs without looking threw scope. Even counterstrike (the most popular game) has crosshairs but they don't shoot straight to where the crosshair is.

pshyco123456 · 9th Feb 2002, 06:43 PM

Actually in real life's technology today there are little computer helmets they have that go straight in front of your right eye and they have a little dot right where he is aiming. this is in 2001's techonlogy

FiringAimlessly · 9th Feb 2002, 06:50 PM

1) Learn the difference between IRON SIGHTS (the funny-looking little things you see above the barrels on many guns) and SCOPES (a big funny-looking thing above the barrel shaped like a long funnel or hourglass, sometimes just a cylinder)

2) Speak not of CS.

3) The shiny nifty computer gadgets have not been sufficiently tested in the field for either the INF team to model correctly or to be used widely by the military.

4) If you're still stuck try playing StrikeForce or Night's Edge... they both have aiming systems in some ways similar to INF's, but also retain the older FPS-like elements so you can more easily understand by analogy how INF's aiming system would work without having to deal with zillions of other new things at once...

jaeg · 9th Feb 2002, 06:51 PM

"Even counterstrike (the most popular game) has crosshairs "

May God have mercy on your soul.

FiringAimlessly · 9th Feb 2002, 06:57 PM

I can't believe we've forgotten this!
Here ya go Psycho.

Quote:

Official Newbie Welcome Boilerplate v1.2

Welcome to the fascinating world of Infiltration, _pshyco123456_

When in doubt RTFM

Read these:
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=87734
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=88561
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=92673
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=87944

Good for laughs:
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=68634

This can help your aim:
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=89009

If you plan on hanging around the forum much:
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showt...threadid=84459

Tip of the day:
"Frag Out!," in INF, is not a general expression of encouraging destruction, but an actual warning regarding a fragmentation grenade.

Have fun.

Hadmar · 9th Feb 2002, 07:09 PM

If you mean you should be able to have a scope on your rifle and use aimmode without actualy looking through the scope, but e.g. over it, then - and only then - I agree.

NotBillMurray · 9th Feb 2002, 08:50 PM

My issues with you are as follows:

Which army teaches their soldiers to fire without aiming?
Why would that create a crosshairs for their soldiers. Is there some kind of hypnosis or ocular surgery that creates it for them?
Have you even tried aiming with INF. You'll notice that pressing the alternate fire/aim/mouse 2 button will align the weapon with your cheek so that you are looking though the "iron" sights of the weapon. This is the way that real soldiers aim their weapon, and is something that CS has never attempted to show.
Are you aware that you have misspelled psycho, pshyco?

I believe that with the right amount of medical treatment, we can save your son ma'am. However, the long term CS-use has rendered him into a near vegetative state. Assuming we can control the drooling, you may have to accept the fact that the best he can hope for in life is to be President.

asmodeus · 9th Feb 2002, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk_Zero
Assuming we can control the drooling, you may have to accept the fact that the best he can hope for in life is to be President.

9th Feb 2002, 03:43 PM	#1
pshyco123456 Registered User Join Date: Feb. 9th, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 52	One major disadvantage There only one thing i do not like about Infiltration. That is no crosshairs without zoom. In real life you know exactly where your shooting without scope. thats why they train the army. Just had to say somthing. don't take it the wrong way :redeemer: __________________ ive seen it all, done it all, said it all, Just can't remember it all

9th Feb 2002, 03:44 PM	#2
yurch Swinging the clue-by-four Join Date: May. 21st, 2001 Location: USA, Maryland. Posts: 5,781	Try "aim" mode. __________________

9th Feb 2002, 04:16 PM	#3
pshyco123456 Registered User Join Date: Feb. 9th, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 52	what you mean aimbot?? i'd be happy J/K __________________ ive seen it all, done it all, said it all, Just can't remember it all

9th Feb 2002, 06:07 PM	#9
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	he means that you don'T have a crosshair when you don't have a scope __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

9th Feb 2002, 06:10 PM	#10
deeznuts Pray for the blunted Join Date: Nov. 17th, 2001 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posts: 178	But we all know that in real life, you have this crosshair floating in front of your face that shows you where your bullets are going. __________________ "Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Ralph Wiggum

9th Feb 2002, 04:33 PM	#4
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	Press your secondary fire/aim button. And lo, he was shown the light that is...infiltration.

9th Feb 2002, 05:10 PM	#5
bastardb Registered User Join Date: Dec. 11th, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 904	i dont understand what he tried to say.... does he mean he wants a scope without crosshairs? why?

9th Feb 2002, 05:25 PM	#7
roboman35 Soviet Join Date: Jul. 22nd, 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 82	I think he's trying to say that IRL the army trains you to aim only with a scope. Or something like that at least....

9th Feb 2002, 06:15 PM	#11
FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS! Join Date: Sep. 18th, 2001 Posts: 2,692	A scope without those pesky obtrusive crosshairs would RULE!!! Anyway... Uh... no, most of the time it's pretty damn hard in game or in real life to tell where the hell your bullet will hit without at least looking down the barrel... that's part of the reason why most of the older FPSs (Doom, Wolfenstein, Rise of the Triad Quake 1) that don't normally use crosshairs (ps if you actually need the crosshairs in Quake 1 you really, really suck ) have the gun going down the middle of your view... EDIT: Come to think of it, why don't most scopes have only a single notched line going down from the middle of the view and get rid of the mostly superfluous lines on the top and sides?

9th Feb 2002, 06:31 PM	#12
Mason Self appointed voice of reason Join Date: Dec. 14th, 2000 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,215	Yet another apparent example of an individual who tried Infiltration without reading the manual. Personally, I find anyone who doesn't look at the 'control' area with the key bindings a little odd...which this individual must have done, otherwise he would have noticed that Alt-Right Mouse does SOMETHING. That, or he's a troll.....either way, he'll learn or he will leave, either way, the community is saved! __________________ "I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use"- Galileo --May the souls of all those who have lost their lives on 9-11-01 rest easy with the love and sorrow expressed by a largely mournful world.

9th Feb 2002, 06:41 PM	#13
pshyco123456 Registered User Join Date: Feb. 9th, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 52	What i mean is that the army trains men not to always use scopes. they are trained to shoot & hit without scopes. I mean you should be able to have crosshairs without looking threw scope. Even counterstrike (the most popular game) has crosshairs but they don't shoot straight to where the crosshair is. __________________ ive seen it all, done it all, said it all, Just can't remember it all

9th Feb 2002, 06:43 PM	#14
pshyco123456 Registered User Join Date: Feb. 9th, 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 52	Actually in real life's technology today there are little computer helmets they have that go straight in front of your right eye and they have a little dot right where he is aiming. this is in 2001's techonlogy __________________ ive seen it all, done it all, said it all, Just can't remember it all

9th Feb 2002, 06:50 PM	#15
FiringAimlessly NOT going to waste another minute on CS! Join Date: Sep. 18th, 2001 Posts: 2,692	1) Learn the difference between IRON SIGHTS (the funny-looking little things you see above the barrels on many guns) and SCOPES (a big funny-looking thing above the barrel shaped like a long funnel or hourglass, sometimes just a cylinder) 2) Speak not of CS. 3) The shiny nifty computer gadgets have not been sufficiently tested in the field for either the INF team to model correctly or to be used widely by the military. 4) If you're still stuck try playing StrikeForce or Night's Edge... they both have aiming systems in some ways similar to INF's, but also retain the older FPS-like elements so you can more easily understand by analogy how INF's aiming system would work without having to deal with zillions of other new things at once...

9th Feb 2002, 06:51 PM	#16
jaeg PopeyeTurbo Join Date: Oct. 18th, 2000 Posts: 710	"Even counterstrike (the most popular game) has crosshairs " May God have mercy on your soul.

9th Feb 2002, 07:09 PM	#18
Hadmar Queen Bitch of the Universe Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2001 Location: Nerdpole Posts: 5,317	If you mean you should be able to have a scope on your rifle and use aimmode without actualy looking through the scope, but e.g. over it, then - and only then - I agree. __________________

9th Feb 2002, 08:50 PM	#19
NotBillMurray It's Suntory Time! Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2001 Posts: 2,294	My issues with you are as follows: Which army teaches their soldiers to fire without aiming? Why would that create a crosshairs for their soldiers. Is there some kind of hypnosis or ocular surgery that creates it for them? Have you even tried aiming with INF. You'll notice that pressing the alternate fire/aim/mouse 2 button will align the weapon with your cheek so that you are looking though the "iron" sights of the weapon. This is the way that real soldiers aim their weapon, and is something that CS has never attempted to show. Are you aware that you have misspelled psycho, pshyco? I believe that with the right amount of medical treatment, we can save your son ma'am. However, the long term CS-use has rendered him into a near vegetative state. Assuming we can control the drooling, you may have to accept the fact that the best he can hope for in life is to be President.

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