Idea involving gravity, and oriantation

Call me Erdrik · 30th Jan 2002, 10:23 AM

any one know what I variables I need to modify to change the players 'base??' so that they stand perpindicular to different surfaces? like the wall or ceiling?

I want to make a point actor to be a gravity point, and make it in a sphere so the player can walk around the sphere like a moon or planet.

any help would be appreciated...

(this would also help in my mod so the player could walk on the outside surfaces of their starbase/carriar ^_^ )

someguy_99 · 30th Jan 2002, 11:28 AM

That would be very cool.

Kangus · 30th Jan 2002, 12:16 PM

I think that that would require whole new states, meaning whole new player classes.... meaning for your maps you might be better off using a lot of stinking portals rather than messing with new states.... or maybe not...

Call me Erdrik · 30th Jan 2002, 12:18 PM

well hopfully it won't require new states... but if it does I can still use it for my MOD as I am making a new player class anyway..

navboy · 30th Jan 2002, 06:10 PM

i though the game engine was hardcoded to enforce that there is only one "true" up as far as player orientation and there's no changing it. Some people have kind of achieved an illusion of walking on walls by using tilted warpzone portals, but that's about it, from what i understand.

Dragonfly_of_Forgery · 30th Jan 2002, 09:54 PM

There's that spider physics type... can you do anything useful with that?

Call me Erdrik · 30th Jan 2002, 11:08 PM

mmmm What uses the Spider physics in the game?
then I could look at it then... but I'm not sure it'll help...
ya never know tho

ill look into it

Smoke39 · 31st Jan 2002, 03:12 PM

Some blobs from U1 use PHYS_Spider. It doesn't seem to do anything with it, though.

Dragonfly_of_Forgery · 1st Feb 2002, 04:11 PM

Try setting your physics to it, it lets you walk up walls but it does funny things to your movement. I think Epic never finished it, but I can't remember where I heard that.

Smoke39 · 1st Feb 2002, 05:23 PM

I just tried it and it lets you move horrizontally along walls, changes the rotation of your mesh, and has weird movement controlls. You also fall slower. It doesn't do anything with your viewrotation either. I also got gibbed a few times and I'm not sure why. It was pretty bad.

EvilDrWong · 3rd Feb 2002, 05:04 PM

PHYS_Spider is fun! WEEE! its supposed to be able to set any surface as the uh... normalized ground or something... to a pawn, but ive got an inkling that they didnt complete the movement code for it.

someguy_99 · 3rd Feb 2002, 06:05 PM

Matrix Moves has some walk-on-walls stuff in it.

Smoke39 · 3rd Feb 2002, 06:29 PM

I'm pretty sure MM uses new player classes.

Call me Erdrik · 6th Feb 2002, 01:45 PM

Well I checked it out and unless Phys_Spider turns anything up(I haven't check the blobs yet

) Id have to make a new player class

It looks a lot more coplicated than I had thought.. I need to find out the variable that UT uses to determine the surface that the player is standing on.... but then Id have to change the local axis to match the normal of that suface.... and set the movement stuffs to match the axis.. or just set the movement to match the normal

but it'll probly be a while .... I kinda got un-inspired when I got that error for the space MOD I was working on

... Ill get back to it tho

30th Jan 2002, 10:23 AM	#1
Call me Erdrik Arch Mage Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1999 Location: Spring Hill, FL, USA Posts: 334	Idea involving gravity, and oriantation any one know what I variables I need to modify to change the players 'base??' so that they stand perpindicular to different surfaces? like the wall or ceiling? I want to make a point actor to be a gravity point, and make it in a sphere so the player can walk around the sphere like a moon or planet. any help would be appreciated... (this would also help in my mod so the player could walk on the outside surfaces of their starbase/carriar ^_^ ) __________________ Call me Erdrik -hvErdrik -Erdrik PIMP DarkMagic Boycott Fox!!! Down with the Evil Overlords!

30th Jan 2002, 12:16 PM	#3
Kangus Zombie on your pwn! Join Date: Jan. 29th, 2001 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 978	I think that that would require whole new states, meaning whole new player classes.... meaning for your maps you might be better off using a lot of stinking portals rather than messing with new states.... or maybe not... __________________ --Kangus

30th Jan 2002, 12:18 PM	#4
Call me Erdrik Arch Mage Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1999 Location: Spring Hill, FL, USA Posts: 334	well hopfully it won't require new states... but if it does I can still use it for my MOD as I am making a new player class anyway.. __________________ Call me Erdrik -hvErdrik -Erdrik PIMP DarkMagic Boycott Fox!!! Down with the Evil Overlords!

30th Jan 2002, 06:10 PM	#5
navboy Registered User Join Date: Jan. 5th, 2001 Location: tornados, Wizard of Oz, 70's rock group, lots of native Americans, etc. Posts: 340	i though the game engine was hardcoded to enforce that there is only one "true" up as far as player orientation and there's no changing it. Some people have kind of achieved an illusion of walking on walls by using tilted warpzone portals, but that's about it, from what i understand. __________________ -- navboy :: Team Fragadelic http://www.planetunreal.com/fragadelic/navboy/ http://www.planetunreal.com/fragadelic/

30th Jan 2002, 09:54 PM	#6
Dragonfly_of_Forgery long gone Join Date: Jun. 12th, 2001 Posts: 409	There's that spider physics type... can you do anything useful with that? __________________ Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife--chopping off what's incomplete and saying: "Now, it's complete because it's ended here." --from "The Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan

30th Jan 2002, 11:28 AM	#2
someguy_99 Registered User Join Date: Sep. 7th, 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 325	That would be very cool.

30th Jan 2002, 11:08 PM	#7
Call me Erdrik Arch Mage Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1999 Location: Spring Hill, FL, USA Posts: 334	mmmm What uses the Spider physics in the game? then I could look at it then... but I'm not sure it'll help... ya never know tho ill look into it __________________ Call me Erdrik -hvErdrik -Erdrik PIMP DarkMagic Boycott Fox!!! Down with the Evil Overlords!

31st Jan 2002, 03:12 PM	#8
Smoke39 whatever Join Date: Jun. 2nd, 2001 Posts: 1,793	Some blobs from U1 use PHYS_Spider. It doesn't seem to do anything with it, though.

1st Feb 2002, 04:11 PM	#9
Dragonfly_of_Forgery long gone Join Date: Jun. 12th, 2001 Posts: 409	Try setting your physics to it, it lets you walk up walls but it does funny things to your movement. I think Epic never finished it, but I can't remember where I heard that. __________________ Arrakis teaches the attitude of the knife--chopping off what's incomplete and saying: "Now, it's complete because it's ended here." --from "The Collected Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan

1st Feb 2002, 05:23 PM	#10
Smoke39 whatever Join Date: Jun. 2nd, 2001 Posts: 1,793	I just tried it and it lets you move horrizontally along walls, changes the rotation of your mesh, and has weird movement controlls. You also fall slower. It doesn't do anything with your viewrotation either. I also got gibbed a few times and I'm not sure why. It was pretty bad.

3rd Feb 2002, 05:04 PM	#11
EvilDrWong Every line of code elevates you Join Date: Jun. 16th, 2001 Location: Inside the machine Posts: 932	PHYS_Spider is fun! WEEE! its supposed to be able to set any surface as the uh... normalized ground or something... to a pawn, but ive got an inkling that they didnt complete the movement code for it. __________________ How can you challenge a perfect immortal machine?

3rd Feb 2002, 06:05 PM	#12
someguy_99 Registered User Join Date: Sep. 7th, 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 325	Matrix Moves has some walk-on-walls stuff in it.

3rd Feb 2002, 06:29 PM	#13
Smoke39 whatever Join Date: Jun. 2nd, 2001 Posts: 1,793	I'm pretty sure MM uses new player classes.

6th Feb 2002, 01:45 PM	#14
Call me Erdrik Arch Mage Join Date: Nov. 24th, 1999 Location: Spring Hill, FL, USA Posts: 334	Well I checked it out and unless Phys_Spider turns anything up(I haven't check the blobs yet ) Id have to make a new player class It looks a lot more coplicated than I had thought.. I need to find out the variable that UT uses to determine the surface that the player is standing on.... but then Id have to change the local axis to match the normal of that suface.... and set the movement stuffs to match the axis.. or just set the movement to match the normal but it'll probly be a while .... I kinda got un-inspired when I got that error for the space MOD I was working on ... Ill get back to it tho __________________ Call me Erdrik -hvErdrik -Erdrik PIMP DarkMagic Boycott Fox!!! Down with the Evil Overlords!

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