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burglecut · 24th Jan 2002, 03:47 PM

Whenever I play online I'm about a second behind the game when it comes to shooting people, picking up stuff and doors opening for me. I'm on AOL and have a 56k. Please can someone help me so that I can at least have some sort of game without it saying "connection failed" because I'm really bored with playin against bots. Please don't tell me to get a cable or sign on with someone thats not AOL cos I have no money and my dad likes AOL.

PLEASE HELP ME.

Cheers.

SugarBear · 24th Jan 2002, 04:08 PM

best i can tell you is to organize your lists by ping, and hop into the lowest pinging games. there has to be at least a few near you at or below 100, those will give you the best results.

SU3000 · 24th Jan 2002, 04:09 PM

Are you serious?

If you are: there is very little we can do for you. You describe all the things wrong with AOL and 56k, and afaik there are very few options available to improve your line.

Maybe you should wait untill some of the modemers here drop by with info on what modem / isp they use.

Otoh there also are people around who have tweaked their bots to improve the funness of their game, wait for them to arrive too - gl

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NeoNite · 24th Jan 2002, 04:58 PM

what people

?

Shayla Shayla · 24th Jan 2002, 07:43 PM

I have telewest and a 56k, and its a blessing to get a game at around 350 ping. Its soared as high as 2000 before so I leave online play to the cable users.

Unless you have that, theres NO point playing on a 56k.

Law · 24th Jan 2002, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuffy_the_Tank
best i can tell you is to organize your lists by ping, and hop into the lowest pinging games. there has to be at least a few near you at or below 100, those will give you the best results.

If he's on AOL with a 56k modem, he isn't going to ping any servers at 100. A good AOL connection (oxymoron?) would be lucky to give him a 200 ping. Its just not a good gaming ISP. Period.

Its possible to have an enjoyable game with a 56k modem, but you need a good server and a decent ISP. Factor in the modem itself, and the odds are stacked against you. But there are still some very successful modem users.

LordKhaine · 24th Jan 2002, 08:47 PM

Remember hes in England, AOL in england is a lot better than in America. What modem are you on, im betting either you're on a winmodem, or your phone line is sucky. You *may* be able to improve the line by calling BT. BT may be complete bastards when it comes to net useage, but they usually keep the lines ok. As for the modem, if its a winmodem you are screwed. Winmodems suck for gaming, if you have a winmodem I *highly* advise you get a new hardware 56K. An external Diamond Supra Express Pro will do wonders. I used to ping like you before I got a hardware modem, now a sub 150 ping is common for me. Last night I was pinging 130-140 in RA3.

A 56K will always suck due to lack of bandwidth and lag, but it can get you a good enough connection for UT.

[edit]Oh yeah, and a 130 ping is really *the* lowest you will ever get. You wont get lower than that ingame for more than a few seconds.[/edit]

Sir Questor=UTK= · 24th Jan 2002, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shayla Shayla
I have telewest and a 56k, and its a blessing to get a game at around 350 ping. Its soared as high as 2000 before so I leave online play to the cable users.

Unless you have that, theres NO point playing on a 56k.

One of my clanmates was on 56k for quite some time. He was first in the Quarterly stats for quite some time when he was on it. His name is Evil LarrE

I also know that a guy named Tommy is on 56K and was first last week (Haven't checked this week).

Another clanmate of mine St. Cadzilla=UTK= is on 56K and his game rocks.

A stable 56K connection is often better than a cable connection that spikes all over the place. Try to figure out where to aim when your ping goes up and down from 60-300. I know that my cable connection was like this, so I got ADSL.

Guardian 452 · 24th Jan 2002, 10:31 PM

56k here
The best I get is a 48k connection (But I AM NOT USING AOL).
I have found servers that I can get under 200 ping. I usually average about 250 to 350 ping. I can handle my own against some of the 60 to 100 pingers that I come across.
Practice practice practice..... learn how far to lead other players. I aim about about 1 to 2 player widths ahead of someone.
Study the other players moves. You will find that the average player is very 1 dimensional, And you can over come or adapt to them.
I would agree that one of the biggest pains is doors. Solution quit playing maps online with doors...

LordKhaine · 25th Jan 2002, 05:26 AM

A 56K is good in UT, compared to Q3A at least. In Q3A I'd say the avg ping is about 45-50. I got called a HPB in Q3A yestaday, and I was pinging 130-140!!

A 56K is perfectly playable in some maps and game types. A 56K can cope with 1v1 well, but will lag far behind in FFA DM as it simply cant handle the data flow required for all the people in view. I detest FFA DM because of this lag.

fart2000 · 25th Jan 2002, 12:38 PM

the quality of the server that you're playing can make a difference. Also, try finding servers that don't allow that many people and getting on those.

8-4-7-2 · 25th Jan 2002, 12:47 PM

Tuffy:
You are spoiled. A 200 ping is very well playable with some handicaps. It's not the best, but can be done.

You said you don't want the message "connection failed". That happenes when the server is full. Sometimes you see a server with 1-2 slots free, and you still get con failed. Then someone faster than you with connecting

Ping is the time a packet travels from the server and back in ms. One second lag would euqual a 1000 ping. As said try to sort the servers by ping, and take the lowest

el Gato · 25th Jan 2002, 01:00 PM

I have a Diamond SupraExpress 56i, an ISA hardware modem, and my pings have been cut in half (400 to 200 on average). I also get next to no disconnections and very little PL/Lag associated with my connection. Of course, I still get it if the server lags out.

The Diamond SupraExpress 56e is another good modem. Model # 2730 - PC, v.90, Rockwell chipset, serial connection, ACF2. Same chipset ans the ISA, but as a serial connection. I'm looking at getting one of these as a backup or when I upgrade my mobo and lose the ISA slot.

burglecut · 25th Jan 2002, 01:29 PM

Thanks for the help everyone, it is VERY much appreciated. I've taken your advice and used it, and I promise, one day...........I WILL be good at this game.

Cheers.

Rukee · 25th Jan 2002, 06:01 PM

Ping Frags are the BEST!!!

Shayla Shayla · 25th Jan 2002, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Questor=UTK=

One of my clanmates was on 56k for quite some time. He was first in the Quarterly stats for quite some time when he was on it. His name is Evil LarrE

I also know that a guy named Tommy is on 56K and was first last week (Haven't checked this week).

Another clanmate of mine St. Cadzilla=UTK= is on 56K and his game rocks.

A stable 56K connection is often better than a cable connection that spikes all over the place. Try to figure out where to aim when your ping goes up and down from 60-300. I know that my cable connection was like this, so I got ADSL.

lol, not with telewest!
I've got a few sneak shots in even with a 900 ping before, but it is no fun to play like that.

24th Jan 2002, 03:47 PM	#1
burglecut Registered User Join Date: Jan. 13th, 2002 Location: England, Winners of the war. Posts: 6	UT online Whenever I play online I'm about a second behind the game when it comes to shooting people, picking up stuff and doors opening for me. I'm on AOL and have a 56k. Please can someone help me so that I can at least have some sort of game without it saying "connection failed" because I'm really bored with playin against bots. Please don't tell me to get a cable or sign on with someone thats not AOL cos I have no money and my dad likes AOL. PLEASE HELP ME. Cheers. __________________ Hands up if Forest rule.

24th Jan 2002, 04:08 PM	#2
SugarBear Sadly Un-Surreal Join Date: May. 18th, 2001 Location: Doesn't even matter Posts: 1,712	best i can tell you is to organize your lists by ping, and hop into the lowest pinging games. there has to be at least a few near you at or below 100, those will give you the best results. __________________ unless otherwise noted, my post is not to be taken seriously, if you get offended then it's because you're an idiot and you took it the wrong way, not my fault, smileys are for pansies I miss you Mobace. ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^›

24th Jan 2002, 04:09 PM	#3
SU3000 Bringer of Fear and 0wnage Join Date: Jun. 10th, 2000 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,040	Are you serious? If you are: there is very little we can do for you. You describe all the things wrong with AOL and 56k, and afaik there are very few options available to improve your line. Maybe you should wait untill some of the modemers here drop by with info on what modem / isp they use. Otoh there also are people around who have tweaked their bots to improve the funness of their game, wait for them to arrive too - gl . __________________ "He was embiggened for he was cromulent"

24th Jan 2002, 04:58 PM	#4
NeoNite Edge of forever Join Date: Dec. 10th, 2000 Location: in a stream of stars Posts: 18,540	what people ? __________________

24th Jan 2002, 07:43 PM	#5
Shayla Shayla Officially General Hein's best friend! Join Date: Sep. 24th, 2001 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 78	I have telewest and a 56k, and its a blessing to get a game at around 350 ping. Its soared as high as 2000 before so I leave online play to the cable users. Unless you have that, theres NO point playing on a 56k. __________________ Last edited by Shayla Shayla; 24th Jan 2002 at 07:51 PM.

24th Jan 2002, 08:47 PM	#7
LordKhaine I sing the body electric... Join Date: Dec. 6th, 1999 Location: UK Posts: 5,635	Remember hes in England, AOL in england is a lot better than in America. What modem are you on, im betting either you're on a winmodem, or your phone line is sucky. You may be able to improve the line by calling BT. BT may be complete bastards when it comes to net useage, but they usually keep the lines ok. As for the modem, if its a winmodem you are screwed. Winmodems suck for gaming, if you have a winmodem I highly advise you get a new hardware 56K. An external Diamond Supra Express Pro will do wonders. I used to ping like you before I got a hardware modem, now a sub 150 ping is common for me. Last night I was pinging 130-140 in RA3. A 56K will always suck due to lack of bandwidth and lag, but it can get you a good enough connection for UT. [edit]Oh yeah, and a 130 ping is really the lowest you will ever get. You wont get lower than that ingame for more than a few seconds.[/edit] __________________ ~LordKhaine~ All your hidden faces, Your seven veils unfold. Give me forbidden places, All your tales untold. Give me ever and always, Ever and always, Body and soul

24th Jan 2002, 10:31 PM	#9
Guardian 452 Knows enough to be dangerous Join Date: Jul. 31st, 2000 Location: Iowa Posts: 119	56k here The best I get is a 48k connection (But I AM NOT USING AOL). I have found servers that I can get under 200 ping. I usually average about 250 to 350 ping. I can handle my own against some of the 60 to 100 pingers that I come across. Practice practice practice..... learn how far to lead other players. I aim about about 1 to 2 player widths ahead of someone. Study the other players moves. You will find that the average player is very 1 dimensional, And you can over come or adapt to them. I would agree that one of the biggest pains is doors. Solution quit playing maps online with doors... __________________ "I come from the net. I search through systems, peoples, and cities. For this place Mainframe. My home, My format Guardian...To Mend and Defend" (Bob, Reboot season 3)

25th Jan 2002, 05:26 AM	#10
LordKhaine I sing the body electric... Join Date: Dec. 6th, 1999 Location: UK Posts: 5,635	A 56K is good in UT, compared to Q3A at least. In Q3A I'd say the avg ping is about 45-50. I got called a HPB in Q3A yestaday, and I was pinging 130-140!! A 56K is perfectly playable in some maps and game types. A 56K can cope with 1v1 well, but will lag far behind in FFA DM as it simply cant handle the data flow required for all the people in view. I detest FFA DM because of this lag. __________________ ~LordKhaine~ All your hidden faces, Your seven veils unfold. Give me forbidden places, All your tales untold. Give me ever and always, Ever and always, Body and soul

25th Jan 2002, 12:38 PM	#11
fart2000 did i do that? Join Date: Aug. 28th, 2001 Location: front row center Posts: 167	the quality of the server that you're playing can make a difference. Also, try finding servers that don't allow that many people and getting on those.

25th Jan 2002, 12:47 PM	#12
8-4-7-2 Registered User Join Date: Mar. 6th, 2000 Location: Germany Posts: 6,962	Tuffy: You are spoiled. A 200 ping is very well playable with some handicaps. It's not the best, but can be done. You said you don't want the message "connection failed". That happenes when the server is full. Sometimes you see a server with 1-2 slots free, and you still get con failed. Then someone faster than you with connecting Ping is the time a packet travels from the server and back in ms. One second lag would euqual a 1000 ping. As said try to sort the servers by ping, and take the lowest

25th Jan 2002, 01:00 PM	#13
el Gato Has-Been Join Date: Jan. 19th, 2000 Location: outside Raleigh NC Posts: 3,522	I have a Diamond SupraExpress 56i, an ISA hardware modem, and my pings have been cut in half (400 to 200 on average). I also get next to no disconnections and very little PL/Lag associated with my connection. Of course, I still get it if the server lags out. The Diamond SupraExpress 56e is another good modem. Model # 2730 - PC, v.90, Rockwell chipset, serial connection, ACF2. Same chipset ans the ISA, but as a serial connection. I'm looking at getting one of these as a backup or when I upgrade my mobo and lose the ISA slot. __________________

25th Jan 2002, 01:29 PM	#14
burglecut Registered User Join Date: Jan. 13th, 2002 Location: England, Winners of the war. Posts: 6	Thanks for the help everyone, it is VERY much appreciated. I've taken your advice and used it, and I promise, one day...........I WILL be good at this game. Cheers. __________________ Hands up if Forest rule.

25th Jan 2002, 06:01 PM	#15
Rukee Coffee overclocks the overclocker!! Join Date: May. 15th, 2001 Location: Over here!!! Posts: 6,639	Ping Frags are the BEST!!! __________________ "This is your life, good to the last drop. It doesn`t get any better then this, and it`s ending ~one minute at a time." "Take care of your body, where else are you going to live" My car ownz you!! Restoration pictures password is 'GTO'

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