Why aren't there any 7.62x51 Assault Rifles?

it's ME · 22nd Jan 2002, 08:58 AM

Like the G3?

das_ben · 22nd Jan 2002, 11:51 AM

because
weapon suggestions are generally disregarded, the inf team made its choice about the guns [for now]

yurch · 22nd Jan 2002, 12:32 PM

WE waNt a bAtTlE rIflE!!@@!@~!!!!11!
/me starts a riot

DarkBls · 22nd Jan 2002, 12:38 PM

yes generally disregarded, otherwise I would die to have a FR-F2 of course !

(/Me thinks with a minimi, FAMAS-G2+Aimpoint+IR+NVG,FR-F2 I can rise a full french quad online

)

RAZZ · 22nd Jan 2002, 12:47 PM

all I want added is my dragunove

course, an mp7 wouldent hurt either (better than the p90 far as I care )

Sweep · 22nd Jan 2002, 01:06 PM

A FAL or G3 would be the obvious choice for a full power battle rifle, but I don't think we'll see one for quite a while.

I'd personally settle for a few more standard assault rifle choices myself...

Destructo6 · 22nd Jan 2002, 02:50 PM

A G3A4 + HK79 would be great.

I'd prefer a G3KA3 + HK79, though.

Spetznaz_1 · 22nd Jan 2002, 03:52 PM

I'd also like a Battle Rifle like the FN-FAL or G3, but they have made their weapon choice and i'll be happy with the G11 when they release it. *druels*

[121st]Burton · 22nd Jan 2002, 03:57 PM

Tryout the PSG-1. Now you know the recoil of a weapon using 7.62mm. Now imagine, that you could shoot it in full auto.
Question: Would you use a gun, that needs two hits to kill like the M16 oder SIG, but with much more recoil ?
I doubt it.

7.62mm is a obsolete cal. Too much recoil, to heavy ammo and most of the time too heavy guns.

DamienW · 22nd Jan 2002, 04:53 PM

Hey, DarkBls, the day you form a french platoon, warn me

manboy · 22nd Jan 2002, 05:02 PM

M4's would be nice (5.56 I know). Aren't flashlight attachments available for them? Also, modelling an OICW (I know, prototypes galore, no set model) of some type would be cool. Especially the GL part where you can set the arming distance of the grenade *drools*.

juca · 22nd Jan 2002, 05:04 PM

Still think that a FN-FAL would simply kick ass...

Destructo6 · 22nd Jan 2002, 09:31 PM

Recoil and muzzle rise on 7.62NATO battle rifles isn't bad, especially true from the bipod. The weight cancels out a lot of the recoil. They're not quite as quick on target, but do quite a bit more damage once there.

asmodeus · 22nd Jan 2002, 10:13 PM

I'd use a battle rifle on semi.... would be a lot better than a m16 ons emi, /me thinks

Kuroshio Apocal · 22nd Jan 2002, 11:44 PM

I would say either G3 or M14.

ecale3 · 22nd Jan 2002, 11:51 PM

so what is the difference between Assault Rifles and Battle Rifles?

Sweep · 23rd Jan 2002, 12:05 AM

Main difference is the round they shoot. By definition "assault rifles" fire intermediate powered cartridges. IE less powerful. Battle rifles fire the standard full power round, like the 7.62x51. They're as a rule heavier with longer barrels, but there is nothing that says they have to be. They make variants of FALs and such with shorter barrels, folding stocks, etc. On full auto most are pretty hard to control.

BlAcK_PlAgUe22 · 23rd Jan 2002, 12:11 AM

M14!

Spetznaz_1 · 23rd Jan 2002, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [121st]Burton
Would you use a gun, that needs two hits to kill like the M16 oder SIG, but with much more recoil ?
I doubt it.

Do 5.56mm not take 3 shots to kill in INF? I am confused as sometimes it seems that i need 2 shots and others i need 3. I'm talking about torso hits.

Destructo6 · 23rd Jan 2002, 01:53 PM

When the M4 is modeled, it would be nice to have a Surefire Millenia Light as an attachment.

22nd Jan 2002, 08:58 AM	#1
it's ME Registered User Join Date: Nov. 15th, 2001 Posts: 70	Why aren't there any 7.62x51 Assault Rifles? Like the G3?

22nd Jan 2002, 11:51 AM	#2
das_ben Concerned. Join Date: Feb. 11th, 2000 Location: Teutonia Posts: 5,174	because weapon suggestions are generally disregarded, the inf team made its choice about the guns [for now] __________________ - Ben. [Flickr]

22nd Jan 2002, 12:32 PM	#3
yurch Swinging the clue-by-four Join Date: May. 21st, 2001 Location: USA, Maryland. Posts: 5,779	WE waNt a bAtTlE rIflE!!@@!@~!!!!11! /me starts a riot __________________

22nd Jan 2002, 12:38 PM	#4
DarkBls Inf Ex-admin Join Date: Mar. 5th, 2000 Location: France Posts: 4,550	yes generally disregarded, otherwise I would die to have a FR-F2 of course ! (/Me thinks with a minimi, FAMAS-G2+Aimpoint+IR+NVG,FR-F2 I can rise a full french quad online ) __________________ -------- In Vino Veritas -------- -New to Infiltration? Check out the Official Infiltration FAQ and Member's Infiltration FAQ.

22nd Jan 2002, 12:47 PM	#5
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	all I want added is my dragunove course, an mp7 wouldent hurt either (better than the p90 far as I care ) __________________ HGF construction Crew

22nd Jan 2002, 01:06 PM	#6
Sweep Registered User Join Date: Jul. 26th, 2001 Posts: 290	A FAL or G3 would be the obvious choice for a full power battle rifle, but I don't think we'll see one for quite a while. I'd personally settle for a few more standard assault rifle choices myself... __________________ Sweep

22nd Jan 2002, 02:50 PM	#7
Destructo6 8404 Join Date: Jan. 11th, 2002 Posts: 217	A G3A4 + HK79 would be great. I'd prefer a G3KA3 + HK79, though.

22nd Jan 2002, 03:52 PM	#8
Spetznaz_1 Special-Purpose Join Date: May. 28th, 2001 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 370	I'd also like a Battle Rifle like the FN-FAL or G3, but they have made their weapon choice and i'll be happy with the G11 when they release it. druels __________________ Spetznaz_1 "He who desires peace, must first prepare for war." A member of «45th»

22nd Jan 2002, 03:57 PM	#9
[121st]Burton full-auto SIG abuser Join Date: Feb. 7th, 2000 Posts: 511	Tryout the PSG-1. Now you know the recoil of a weapon using 7.62mm. Now imagine, that you could shoot it in full auto. Question: Would you use a gun, that needs two hits to kill like the M16 oder SIG, but with much more recoil ? I doubt it. 7.62mm is a obsolete cal. Too much recoil, to heavy ammo and most of the time too heavy guns. __________________ INF-Europe 121st Platoon

22nd Jan 2002, 04:53 PM	#10
DamienW I'm no stranger to sarcasm, sir Join Date: Feb. 4th, 2001 Location: Bayonne, France Posts: 1,678	Hey, DarkBls, the day you form a french platoon, warn me __________________ Formerly known as Max Sterling

22nd Jan 2002, 05:02 PM	#11
manboy Registered User Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2002 Posts: 49	M4's would be nice (5.56 I know). Aren't flashlight attachments available for them? Also, modelling an OICW (I know, prototypes galore, no set model) of some type would be cool. Especially the GL part where you can set the arming distance of the grenade drools.

22nd Jan 2002, 05:04 PM	#12
juca FN-Fal-ist Join Date: Mar. 4th, 2001 Location: Between my desk and my chair... Posts: 80	Still think that a FN-FAL would simply kick ass...

22nd Jan 2002, 09:31 PM	#13
Destructo6 8404 Join Date: Jan. 11th, 2002 Posts: 217	Recoil and muzzle rise on 7.62NATO battle rifles isn't bad, especially true from the bipod. The weight cancels out a lot of the recoil. They're not quite as quick on target, but do quite a bit more damage once there.

22nd Jan 2002, 10:13 PM	#14
asmodeus DB addict Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Posts: 1,609	I'd use a battle rifle on semi.... would be a lot better than a m16 ons emi, /me thinks __________________ Deathball (sports mod for UT2k4) NADBL season 2 rookie of the year

22nd Jan 2002, 11:44 PM	#15
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	I would say either G3 or M14. __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

22nd Jan 2002, 11:51 PM	#16
ecale3 Sniper - May be harmful to your health. Join Date: Jul. 13th, 2001 Location: Maryland Bitch. Posts: 1,718	so what is the difference between Assault Rifles and Battle Rifles? __________________ The man who said "It is better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all" has obviously done neither.

23rd Jan 2002, 12:05 AM	#17
Sweep Registered User Join Date: Jul. 26th, 2001 Posts: 290	Main difference is the round they shoot. By definition "assault rifles" fire intermediate powered cartridges. IE less powerful. Battle rifles fire the standard full power round, like the 7.62x51. They're as a rule heavier with longer barrels, but there is nothing that says they have to be. They make variants of FALs and such with shorter barrels, folding stocks, etc. On full auto most are pretty hard to control. __________________ Sweep

23rd Jan 2002, 12:11 AM	#18
BlAcK_PlAgUe22 I ooze. Join Date: Jul. 31st, 2001 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,423	M14! __________________ *[SDS] BlAcK_PlAgUe22*

23rd Jan 2002, 01:53 PM	#20
Destructo6 8404 Join Date: Jan. 11th, 2002 Posts: 217	When the M4 is modeled, it would be nice to have a Surefire Millenia Light as an attachment.

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