Looks like RA is going to be needed in 2.87

NTKB · 19th Jan 2002, 08:46 PM

Sad but true.... have a look.

OpFor · 19th Jan 2002, 09:14 PM

Meh, as long as it doesn't go beyond that. He is only carrying 1 pistol extra, and that isn't too bad. Lets wait and see, shall we?

DooMfreak · 19th Jan 2002, 09:58 PM

I would say that it is reasonable for a sniper to take the MP5A3 until a lighter submachine gun is available. A true sniper only takes a rifle however.

What does this have to do with RealAim???

{GD}Ghost · 19th Jan 2002, 10:01 PM

Rather than waste my time go tell ya, why don't you go to Project Infiltration and find out if you really want to know.

Kuroshio Apocal · 19th Jan 2002, 10:13 PM

RA restricts you to one primary (longarm) and one secondary (sidearm),

erehwoN · 19th Jan 2002, 10:18 PM

Expect RA to appear for 2.87 in one form or another.

NTKB · 20th Jan 2002, 12:45 AM

Ghost that link is deader than a sniper with an MP5. Gad I hate how someone can rationalize a RC50 and an MP5. Then maybe you can call them a regular soldier with a sniper rifle? Why call them a sniper with a submachine gun? Most major militarys do not outfit there snipers with MP5s. What I do in AFA if im playing teamwork with a friend ill arm myself with a good assault rifle or submachine gun and buddy up and spot for him while he snipes. Thats the way I think is more effective.

Snake13 · 20th Jan 2002, 12:55 AM

they can actually carry it as shown by the model, I don't mind as long as they have disadvantages, let the fools run around like that

DooMfreak · 20th Jan 2002, 01:21 AM

Hmmph... I am out of my league, must be an online thing.

{GD}Ghost · 20th Jan 2002, 01:32 AM

I'm guessing that the optimal firing position for a sniper is prone. Carrying a weapon slung frontside would only impede and interfere with the necessary movement and positions required of a sniper.

DallasStarsRule · 20th Jan 2002, 01:36 AM

What they need is the ability to rest your sniper rifle on a window or something.

Prowler · 20th Jan 2002, 01:59 AM

I wont mind if someone carrys that much weapons, aslong as they make it so you can hear them coming.

spm1138 · 20th Jan 2002, 04:00 AM

The Team have to do what they see fit with 2.87. They are making plenty of concessions to "our" way of playing. I actually like the new slung weapon position. It indicates that there will be tactical slings or something similar. I'd assume there would be some penalty for using a weapon in the shoulder spot.

I have seen various arguments against 1 primary only for Inf and I can see most of them.

Heck, so long as 1 primary in RA keeps going, I couldn't care less...

Infguy98 · 20th Jan 2002, 04:36 AM

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fist_mlrs · 20th Jan 2002, 04:51 AM

ever thought of the possibility that this guy has that many weapons just because they want to show the new playerattachment in action? the weapon at his leg is the knife btw, i neither consider it a primary nor a secondary weapon but a tool, and it isn't unrealistic to cary one along your "real" weapons

Doyve the Royve · 20th Jan 2002, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cogo
Hey... It's REALISTIC to have more than 1 rifle, 1 SMG, 1 Pistol, 5 Mags each, 5 grenades..... It's just stupid.
YOU! choose the way of playing... That's realistic. It's unrealistic to be forced to only have one primary and one pistol.

Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should be able to for the sake of realism. Why don't they add the option of carrying a tent and pegs and a mallet and you can pitch your tent when you find suitable ground? You could do it, but that doesn't mean you should be able to do it in the game.

Harry_C · 20th Jan 2002, 05:31 AM

Apart from the multiple weapons stuff ...
The blade length of the Ka Bar measure 175 mm
So the knife itself should be 25 cm long (10 in ?)
But the weapon on the leg seems, to me ,much bigger.

.Nova. · 20th Jan 2002, 06:49 AM

People are just way to stuck up about this... There's obviuosly two thoughts on how the loadout should be done.
Now, I play RA, and I don't mind the 1 sidearm and one primary thing, because I never use more. But if someone wants to carry all the weapons in the loadout, fine. Just as long as they have their disadvantages, which I'm pretty sure the INF team will solve over time just perfectly. So just let people play the way they want and don't bitch so much. The INF team will make it right.

RAZZ · 20th Jan 2002, 07:08 AM

the robar/mp5/pistol loadout is a standard one from 2.86
I doubt that in making version upgrades, they'll want to change the basic system weve all grown to like (faults and all)

I agree with the "no gun ban" side of this.
you should be allowed to take whatever your heart desires, in any number you feel like

BUT! that decision should come with a level of responsobility and a heavy price tag.
much like the current ra, (example) you can take two grenade launchers, but you'll have a hard time putting them into use since your walking everywhere.

a sniper who cant put some speed on, isint much use on the inf battlefield.

Doyve the Royve · 20th Jan 2002, 08:21 AM

My preferred weapon as you mite guess is PSG-1, but it annoys me not just with the zoom and lack of realistic stopping power, but the cost means all I can't take an SMG for backup, and it's difficult to get some to cover you all the time. I hope the robar is balanced vs PSG-1 in 2.87...

19th Jan 2002, 08:46 PM	#1
NTKB Banned Join Date: Aug. 25th, 2001 Location: New Jersey, U.S.A. Posts: 2,858	Looks like RA is going to be needed in 2.87 Sad but true.... have a look. __________________ “I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit.” -Mark Twain "Let your speech be better than silence, or be silent." -Dionysius of Halicarnassus

19th Jan 2002, 09:14 PM	#2
OpFor Feeling suicide, thats O.K. Join Date: Apr. 26th, 2001 Posts: 1,198	Meh, as long as it doesn't go beyond that. He is only carrying 1 pistol extra, and that isn't too bad. Lets wait and see, shall we? __________________ "You like what you see, its hard to explain."- The Strokes

19th Jan 2002, 10:01 PM	#4
{GD}Ghost Counter Terrorist Operative Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Location: Classified Posts: 1,436	Rather than waste my time go tell ya, why don't you go to Project Infiltration and find out if you really want to know. __________________ * Forgivness is between them and God. My job is to arrange the meeting.- John Creasy * Real life blows....but at least you don't die every 5 minutes. -{GD} Shoany Visit the: Ghost Dogs' Online Store The Ghost Dogs' Forum

19th Jan 2002, 10:13 PM	#5
Kuroshio Apocal Sucka Free Join Date: Apr. 5th, 2001 Location: An area the size of a small apartment with 160 other men. Posts: 1,852	RA restricts you to one primary (longarm) and one secondary (sidearm), __________________ "I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'" -President John Fitzgerald Kennedy

19th Jan 2002, 10:18 PM	#6
erehwoN The Bass Ackwards BTL Join Date: May. 30th, 2001 Location: Wyoming, USA Posts: 1,711	Expect RA to appear for 2.87 in one form or another. __________________ -[AFA_2]erehwoN In Hoc Signo Vinces. Reality is an illusion caused by lack of alcohol. AFA's Homepage :: New AFA Forums :: INF's Official IRC- irc.gamesurge.net #Infiltration

19th Jan 2002, 09:58 PM	#3
DooMfreak Registered User Join Date: Feb. 16th, 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 563	I would say that it is reasonable for a sniper to take the MP5A3 until a lighter submachine gun is available. A true sniper only takes a rifle however. What does this have to do with RealAim???

20th Jan 2002, 12:45 AM	#7
NTKB Banned Join Date: Aug. 25th, 2001 Location: New Jersey, U.S.A. Posts: 2,858	Ghost that link is deader than a sniper with an MP5. Gad I hate how someone can rationalize a RC50 and an MP5. Then maybe you can call them a regular soldier with a sniper rifle? Why call them a sniper with a submachine gun? Most major militarys do not outfit there snipers with MP5s. What I do in AFA if im playing teamwork with a friend ill arm myself with a good assault rifle or submachine gun and buddy up and spot for him while he snipes. Thats the way I think is more effective. __________________ “I was dead for millions of years before I was born and it never inconvenienced me a bit.” -Mark Twain "Let your speech be better than silence, or be silent." -Dionysius of Halicarnassus

20th Jan 2002, 12:55 AM	#8
Snake13 Sniper Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2000 Location: MA, USA Posts: 1,658	they can actually carry it as shown by the model, I don't mind as long as they have disadvantages, let the fools run around like that __________________ "To be prepared for war is the most effectual means of preserving peace." -George Washington

20th Jan 2002, 01:21 AM	#9
DooMfreak Registered User Join Date: Feb. 16th, 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 563	Hmmph... I am out of my league, must be an online thing.

20th Jan 2002, 01:32 AM	#10
{GD}Ghost Counter Terrorist Operative Join Date: Mar. 25th, 2001 Location: Classified Posts: 1,436	I'm guessing that the optimal firing position for a sniper is prone. Carrying a weapon slung frontside would only impede and interfere with the necessary movement and positions required of a sniper. __________________ * Forgivness is between them and God. My job is to arrange the meeting.- John Creasy * Real life blows....but at least you don't die every 5 minutes. -{GD} Shoany Visit the: Ghost Dogs' Online Store The Ghost Dogs' Forum

20th Jan 2002, 01:36 AM	#11
DallasStarsRule making personal insults since 1999 Join Date: Nov. 7th, 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 881	What they need is the ability to rest your sniper rifle on a window or something. __________________

20th Jan 2002, 01:59 AM	#12
Prowler "Building Better Worlds" Join Date: Jul. 6th, 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 599	I wont mind if someone carrys that much weapons, aslong as they make it so you can hear them coming. __________________ "DOWN WITH TDM, RUNnGUN, L33TNESS, AND W00TNESS!" - McMuffin My X-Fire::UMC Website

20th Jan 2002, 04:00 AM	#13
spm1138 Irony Is Join Date: Aug. 10th, 2001 Posts: 2,660	The Team have to do what they see fit with 2.87. They are making plenty of concessions to "our" way of playing. I actually like the new slung weapon position. It indicates that there will be tactical slings or something similar. I'd assume there would be some penalty for using a weapon in the shoulder spot. I have seen various arguments against 1 primary only for Inf and I can see most of them. Heck, so long as 1 primary in RA keeps going, I couldn't care less... __________________

20th Jan 2002, 04:36 AM	#14
Infguy98 Registered User Join Date: Jul. 29th, 2001 Posts: 638	, Last edited by Infguy98; 22nd Nov 2012 at 04:59 AM.

20th Jan 2002, 04:51 AM	#15
fist_mlrs that other guy Join Date: Jan. 4th, 2001 Location: Zittau, Germany Posts: 1,495	ever thought of the possibility that this guy has that many weapons just because they want to show the new playerattachment in action? the weapon at his leg is the knife btw, i neither consider it a primary nor a secondary weapon but a tool, and it isn't unrealistic to cary one along your "real" weapons __________________ www.sentrystudios.net

20th Jan 2002, 05:31 AM	#17
Harry_C Getting old ... and drunk Join Date: Apr. 2nd, 2001 Location: France Posts: 167	Apart from the multiple weapons stuff ... The blade length of the Ka Bar measure 175 mm So the knife itself should be 25 cm long (10 in ?) But the weapon on the leg seems, to me ,much bigger. __________________ VeGA a french clan for infiltration

20th Jan 2002, 06:49 AM	#18
.Nova. Hate Join Date: Feb. 25th, 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 710	People are just way to stuck up about this... There's obviuosly two thoughts on how the loadout should be done. Now, I play RA, and I don't mind the 1 sidearm and one primary thing, because I never use more. But if someone wants to carry all the weapons in the loadout, fine. Just as long as they have their disadvantages, which I'm pretty sure the INF team will solve over time just perfectly. So just let people play the way they want and don't bitch so much. The INF team will make it right. __________________

20th Jan 2002, 07:08 AM	#19
RAZZ aka FURY13RT Join Date: Aug. 5th, 2001 Location: Well away from populated areas Posts: 1,495	the robar/mp5/pistol loadout is a standard one from 2.86 I doubt that in making version upgrades, they'll want to change the basic system weve all grown to like (faults and all) I agree with the "no gun ban" side of this. you should be allowed to take whatever your heart desires, in any number you feel like BUT! that decision should come with a level of responsobility and a heavy price tag. much like the current ra, (example) you can take two grenade launchers, but you'll have a hard time putting them into use since your walking everywhere. a sniper who cant put some speed on, isint much use on the inf battlefield. __________________ HGF construction Crew

20th Jan 2002, 08:21 AM	#20
Doyve the Royve Quite simply the best Royve around! Join Date: Jun. 17th, 2001 Location: North Yorkshire, England Posts: 254	My preferred weapon as you mite guess is PSG-1, but it annoys me not just with the zoom and lack of realistic stopping power, but the cost means all I can't take an SMG for backup, and it's difficult to get some to cover you all the time. I hope the robar is balanced vs PSG-1 in 2.87...

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