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Lizard Of Oz
Demented Avenger
I hate to say it SeRIaLKiLLeR, but your wasting your "breath."
He has choosen to ignore all but the one (or maybe two) benchmarks the support his delusion of Intel superiorty.
He has choosen to ignore all but the one (or maybe two) benchmarks the support his delusion of Intel superiorty.
THE PC:
Athlon XP 1800+
384 MB DDR
100 GB HD
GeForce 3 Ti 500 (got it today *happy* my last one was the original GeForce 3)
IntelliEye Mouse Explorer cordless
17 inch Viewsonic Monitor
The "buddy" pc:
Athlon T-Bird 1200 MHz
384 MB SDRAM
GeForce 3 (moved down today)
17 inch generic monitor
40 GB HD
PS/2 crap mouse
The "Buddies that I hate but come over so I can't refuse them" pc:
Pentium 2 400 MHz
128 MB SDRAM
TNT2 Ultra Video Card (
it used to rock, way back when)
13 inch monitor
20 GB HD
The "I reaaaaally hate you so go away" pc:
AMD K6-2 350 MHz
128 MB SDRAM
ATI Expert@play vidcard
13 inchy
6 GB HD
The lap-dancer:
1.1 GHz Pentium 3
15 inch screen
30 GB HD
256 MB SDRAM
The other Lappy:
33 MHz DX-2
16 MB RAM
80 MB (I think) HD
iddy-biddy screen
Them's my systems. It seems like a lot for a 15 year old with no income, but Santa (and my millionaire uncle) was good to me
Athlon XP 1800+
384 MB DDR
100 GB HD
GeForce 3 Ti 500 (got it today *happy* my last one was the original GeForce 3)
IntelliEye Mouse Explorer cordless
17 inch Viewsonic Monitor
The "buddy" pc:
Athlon T-Bird 1200 MHz
384 MB SDRAM
GeForce 3 (moved down today)
17 inch generic monitor
40 GB HD
PS/2 crap mouse
The "Buddies that I hate but come over so I can't refuse them" pc:
Pentium 2 400 MHz
128 MB SDRAM
TNT2 Ultra Video Card (
it used to rock, way back when)13 inch monitor
20 GB HD
The "I reaaaaally hate you so go away" pc:
AMD K6-2 350 MHz
128 MB SDRAM
ATI Expert@play vidcard
13 inchy
6 GB HD
The lap-dancer:
1.1 GHz Pentium 3
15 inch screen
30 GB HD
256 MB SDRAM
The other Lappy:
33 MHz DX-2
16 MB RAM
80 MB (I think) HD
iddy-biddy screen
Them's my systems. It seems like a lot for a 15 year old with no income, but Santa (and my millionaire uncle) was good to me
Oh yeah, and I got an Audigy Platinum for the first system, an Audigy white box for the second, a SB live Gamer for the third, and a SB PCI 128 for the fourth
So, if we were to underclock a 2.0Ghz Pentium 4 to 1.6Ghz, which is the same speed the Athlon XP 1900+ is clocked at, what would the following scores from that link be? I think it is obvious the winner would be the Athlon XP, so how can you argue that the P4 is superior?
Quake III Arena
Athlon XP 1900+ 237,8
Pentium 4 2.0GHz (Northwood) 256,5
3D Mark 2001
Athlon XP 1900+ 7215
Pentium 4 2.0GHz (Northwood) 7222
Quake III Arena
Athlon XP 1900+ 237,8
Pentium 4 2.0GHz (Northwood) 256,5
3D Mark 2001
Athlon XP 1900+ 7215
Pentium 4 2.0GHz (Northwood) 7222
OOooooh, look what I came across..comparitive benchmarks of the Athlon XP 1900+ and the P4 @ 1.9Ghz.
Keep in mind that the XP 1900+ is running at 1.6Ghz, which is a slower speed than the P 4, thus the Athlon is doing more work per clock cycle than the P 4.
Keep in mind that the XP 1900+ is running at 1.6Ghz, which is a slower speed than the P 4, thus the Athlon is doing more work per clock cycle than the P 4.
I thought I'd stumbled into an old MadOnion "my PIII beats your Athlon", "my Radeon beats your GF2", "my dad can beat up your dad" thread . Some people just refuse to face facts (possibly due to some misguided brand loyalty 
), the way I see it is: Intel for the masses, AMD for the informed (but hey, that's just me).And Cyrix beats all joo Intel-AMD fools!
Lizard Of Oz
Demented Avenger
Originally posted by Sparky
Oh no, a Live Drive painted black... yuucckk!
Ummmm... Thrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrppppppppppp to you sir!
phatcat
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The Red Chocobo
Processor: AMD : 900mhz T-Bird
Memory: 256 megs of 133mhz
Video: GeForce 2 GTS with 32 megs of DDR
Sound: Turtle Beach
Mainboard: Abit KT7-A
Network: netgear 10/100
Power: 250 watt
keyboard: Internet Keyboard (microsoft)
Mouse: Ifeel by Logitech
Monitor: Nokia 17" 1280x1024
CD-ROM: NONE
CR-RW: LG 12/10/32
FDD: standard
Storage: Zip
Tell em to share the wealth with the rest of usOriginally posted by Witty
Them's my systems. It seems like a lot for a 15 year old with no income, but Santa (and my millionaire uncle) was good to me
I love those system names
How original
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"Sp!ke"
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Thank you Fomhoire. Nothing more desperate than showing off benchmarks from AMD.com...
Check out http://www.hardware.fr/ for some more P4 Northwood benchmarks. Which is the one I was refering to when i said 300fps in Q3, something which I would like seeing an AMD doing...
And what is this with you guys: Lower clock speed chips in 0,18 micron being superior to a higher clocked chips in 0,13 micron?!
right....
"AMD for the informed (but hey, that's just me)."
And that would be the ones informed with BS?
Check out http://www.hardware.fr/ for some more P4 Northwood benchmarks. Which is the one I was refering to when i said 300fps in Q3, something which I would like seeing an AMD doing...
And what is this with you guys: Lower clock speed chips in 0,18 micron being superior to a higher clocked chips in 0,13 micron?!
right....
"AMD for the informed (but hey, that's just me)."
And that would be the ones informed with BS?
Right, here's one in English.
OK, I can pick up a 2GHz. PIV (N/Wood) for around £380, yeah it does offer a 10-15% performance increase over the old PIV and I think we can all agree that it's a nice CPU. I can get an XP-1900 for ~£240 that is clocked a full 400MHz. slower than the PIV and yet it offers similar (+/-) performance (without the need for still expensive RDRAM).
The thing is, I don't like to feel as though I'm being ripped off so I know which one I (and most 'informed' people) would prefer. But, like I've already said, that's just me.
OK, I can pick up a 2GHz. PIV (N/Wood) for around £380, yeah it does offer a 10-15% performance increase over the old PIV and I think we can all agree that it's a nice CPU. I can get an XP-1900 for ~£240 that is clocked a full 400MHz. slower than the PIV and yet it offers similar (+/-) performance (without the need for still expensive RDRAM).
The thing is, I don't like to feel as though I'm being ripped off so I know which one I (and most 'informed' people) would prefer. But, like I've already said, that's just me.
It wasn't AMD that did the tests.
Furthermore, the link you posted is in French, and I can't really find **** on it, but I did find a page full of links that keep showing more Athlon v. P4 benchmarks.
The scores on this one are opposite, the lower score is best:
Oh look, a 1.7Ghz P4 beat a 1.33Ghz Athlon. Again, what if they were running at the same clock speed?
Superiority is accomplishing more work per clock cycle. Higher clock speeds mean nothing if you can't do the work. All it does is increase power consumption and heat. Spike, you have some odd reasoning that a 20Ghz processor that does have the work of a 1Ghz processor...is superiority. I don't get where you are going with this.
And stability? No instability in my Athlon here.
So, if you really like the Pentium chips...go ahead, pay $150 more just because the chip runs at a higher clock speed. None of us here have a problem with it.
Furthermore, the link you posted is in French, and I can't really find **** on it, but I did find a page full of links that keep showing more Athlon v. P4 benchmarks.
The scores on this one are opposite, the lower score is best:
Oh look, a 1.7Ghz P4 beat a 1.33Ghz Athlon. Again, what if they were running at the same clock speed?
Superiority is accomplishing more work per clock cycle. Higher clock speeds mean nothing if you can't do the work. All it does is increase power consumption and heat. Spike, you have some odd reasoning that a 20Ghz processor that does have the work of a 1Ghz processor...is superiority. I don't get where you are going with this.
And stability? No instability in my Athlon here.
So, if you really like the Pentium chips...go ahead, pay $150 more just because the chip runs at a higher clock speed. None of us here have a problem with it.
Originally posted by "Sp!ke"
Thank you Fomhoire. Nothing more desperate than showing off benchmarks from AMD.com...
Check out http://www.hardware.fr/ for some more P4 Northwood benchmarks. Which is the one I was refering to when i said 300fps in Q3, something which I would like seeing an AMD doing...
And what is this with you guys: Lower clock speed chips in 0,18 micron being superior to a higher clocked chips in 0,13 micron?!
right....
"AMD for the informed (but hey, that's just me)."
And that would be the ones informed with BS?
Is this the link?
Yup, the Northwood made an improvement over the Willamette chipset, but I still don't see where Intel is coming out ahead.
http://www.hardware.fr/html/articles/lire.php3?article=403&page=3
Yup, the Northwood made an improvement over the Willamette chipset, but I still don't see where Intel is coming out ahead.
http://www.hardware.fr/html/articles/lire.php3?article=403&page=3
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