So you were saying [...] he could have raised less money than McCain/Palin and still won.
no.
I didn't say he could have raised less than McCain and won.
I said that he could have raised a lot less than he did and still won.
get it now?
whoah, whoah.Historical precedent makes people feel good but it doesn't actually do anything valuable for the country, which is all I really care about out of our President.
back up there Brizz.
do you...
do you not know what "precedent" means?
maybe I'm reading this statement wrong, but your grammar would imply that you're using a completely different definition of "precedent" than I am. look:
"historical precedent makes people feel good."
makes people feel good?
so you think I'm talking about electing the first black president?
that's not what I'm talking about when I refer to precedent.
historical precedent is not the fact that Obama is a black man. the precedent has to do with the entire circumstance of the election. Obama was black, but (as I just finished explaining to Hal) he was a real/serious contender. unlike Herman Cain and unlike Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama had the kind of pedigree that most candidates would kill for no matter what side of the aisle they were on or what color their skin was.
the precedent includes the full spectrum of factors that led to Obama's victory; the state of the economy (after being led by 2 conservative administrations), the war(s) on terror, the competition from the rest of the field of candidates, and yes Sarah Palin + John McCain getting a little nasty and away from his principles.
I dare say the color of his skin is the least of the reasons for Obama's success. maybe a few ignorant black people voted for him JUST because he's black, but that doesn't win you a national election.
no, see, this is why I'm afraid that you don't understand what "precedent" means. it doesn't simply mean "anyone who hasn't been there before." that's absurd.Should we have Hobo Joe running for President this year because it would set a historical precedence?
what?Hypocrisy is disagreeing with the system, and then berating one candidate for utilizing that system while giving the order candidate a pass simply because you like him.
I'm not berating Romney for raising money. you can't quote me saying anything like that because I never did.
I've been berating the Citizens United ruling.
not Romney.
I berate Romney because he's a horrible candidate for reasons having nothing to do with money.