Sarah Palin abandons Alaskan people.

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Why has Sarah Palin abandoned the Alaskan people?

  • To prepare to run for President.

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • To cover up some yet undiscovered shenanigans in Alaska

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • To join Fox news as a "Fair & Balanced" contributor.

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • To breed an army of Disney character named, Jesus camp trained, doers of right.

    Votes: 15 29.4%
  • To mow down packs of wild wolves from a helicopter with an MG-42.

    Votes: 8 15.7%
  • To become Governor Mark Sanford's new soul mate.

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • To begin her career as a community organizer.

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • To devote more time to pal'n around with terrorist.

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Who knows, but somebody better start a Hannity suicide watch.

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • To carpet bomb social networking sites with pure, unflitered Crazy.

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Total voters
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Phopojijo

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This plus your sig is a treasure I will enjoy endlessly. Thank you.
Just to preserve it in some place he can't edit.

Iron Archer said:
Yeah, I guess her quitting just proves that she's not the type of person who would sacrifice her family at the altar of politics, like many Democrats have and would. Such a terrible thing to have standards, if you're left-leaning that is.
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Pre-judging an individual by their group identity (or presumed group identity) is not only unethical, it is blatantly irrational, since group identity reveals absolutely nothing about a person. Every individual should be judged only on the basis of their own words and deeds.
Maybe he'll reflect a little.
 

Iron Archer

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Notice, I said "many" and not all, like someone like tool or Liz would routinely like to characterize all Republicans or Conservatives as bigots or fascists. I know you all love to have fun with semantics though, like the assertion that nobody understands what socialism is and so forth. You're so above it all, huh?
 

Phopojijo

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Iron Archer said:
I know you all love to have fun with semantics though, like the assertion that nobody understands what socialism is and so forth. You're so above it all, huh?
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Yeah, I guess her quitting just proves that she's not the type of person who would sacrifice her family at the altar of politics, like many Democrats have and would. Such a terrible thing to have standards, if you're left-leaning that is.

agreed, i completely understand her getting her family out of the way because of these attacks. the issue with her daughter in particular. this thread shows just how childish and vicious many on the left are. here's a tough question. those who have posted pictures i ask. why did you choose to post trashy pictures? do you realize how stupid you appear to those with even a smidgen of maturity.

do you not have the ability to seperate the person from their policies/ideas. she's only the opposition yet you feel the need to conjure up the most hateful propaganda you can find. why take that route? i'd love to hear the/an answer.
 
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Phopojijo

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agreed, i completely understand her getting her family out of the way because of these attacks. the issue with her daughter in particular. this thread shows just how childish and vicious many on the left are. here's a tough question. those who have posted pictures i ask. why did you choose to post trashy pictures? do you realize how stupid you appear to those with even a smidgen of maturity.

do you not have the ability to seperate the person from their policies/ideas. she's only the opposition yet you feel the need to conjure up the most hateful propaganda you can find. why take that route? i'd love to hear the/an answer.
I didn't post a picture but... the same people who make fun of Palin -- make fun of Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky... Obama...

Do *you* have the ability to separate satire from policies/ideas?

Some may or may not be overboard/in bad taste -- but you can't say someone's hateful just because of something that they think is funny.

((Now if they say they hate her than whatever... but hatred is an irrational thing common amongst all of man))
 
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togmkn

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Iron Archer said:
Yeah, I guess her quitting just proves that she's not the type of person who would sacrifice her family at the altar of politics, like many Democrats have and would. Such a terrible thing to have standards, if you're left-leaning that is.
Yeah, as opposed to some (South Carolinian) politicians that would sacrifice their family at the altar of hot Latina sex.

At least that guy has standards...she has to be at least an eight!!



ZIIINNGG!!!
 

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Yeah, I guess her quitting just proves that she's not the type of person who would sacrifice her family at the altar of politics, like many Democrats have and would. Such a terrible thing to have standards, if you're left-leaning that is.

Only reason her family was "attacked" is because of her stance on sex ed.

Like for example, people wouldn't be as hostile to Mark Sanford if he hadn't criticized Clinton, been one of the stronger advocates for evangelicalism, and hadn't signed into SC law it illegal to cheat on your wife.

When something happens that it hypocritical towards your campaign platform, its gonna be "attacked."

And its not like the girl was being harasses. Palin was being harassed about her daughter's baby. Although it was added bonus when her daughter broke off the marriage after Obama won the election. Shows it was just made to try and keep her integrity.
 

hal

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Only reason her family was "attacked" is because of her stance on sex ed.

Like for example, people wouldn't be as hostile to Mark Sanford if he hadn't criticized Clinton, been one of the stronger advocates for evangelicalism, and hadn't signed into SC law it illegal to cheat on your wife.

When something happens that it hypocritical towards your campaign platform, its gonna be "attacked."

And its not like the girl was being harasses. Palin was being harassed about her daughter's baby. Although it was added bonus when her daughter broke off the marriage after Obama won the election. Shows it was just made to try and keep her integrity.

Wow. You're just a ray of sunshine, aren't you?
 

Skold

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so it's ok to attack her family because sex ed doesn't always work and she didn't have absolute control over our children. brilliant!

It is okay to attack her stance on sex ed, which is abstaining from sex until marriage, when she could not even accomplish that with her kids. It is not unlike Clinton preaching not to put cigars in your interns.
 

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It is okay to attack her stance on sex ed, which is abstaining from sex until marriage, when she could not even accomplish that with her kids. It is not unlike Clinton preaching not to put cigars in your interns.
That doesn't mean it's a bad idea and not worth striving for.
 
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Only reason her family was "attacked" is because it was expedient.

Fixed that for you.

Hypocrisy is about the weakest possible charge you can come up with. Pretty much everyone is a hypocrite in some way (or, at the very least, can be presented as a hypocrite by someone who doesn't share their views). Obvious example: Incessant moralizing about how low-class Palin and her family are by people who would lionize them if their political views were different.
And I don't even disagree -- She's kind of on the low-class end of the spectrum. If I were the type of person who bought into ad hominem regularly I might be swayed by that as an argument. At the same time, I certainly would prefer her and her family and her morals to the kind of utterly bankrupt nepotism we see widespread elsewhere in this country and especially its political system (ex. Williamsburg, the Kennedys, the Bushes).

The sex education debate is pretty much pointless -- The people constantly grinding this axe as if it's meaningful are no doubt all standing to benefit from either "normal" sex education programs or "abstinence" sex education programs. Both general groups are monetary interests slavering for the filthy lucre they'd receive from government mandates for teaching their courses in school.
Meanwhile, all the data I've ever seen on the subject indicated that these programs have virtually no effect on actual sexual behaviors -- Regardless of what was purportedly taught. Shocking as it may seem, I'm sure human beings managed to do fine for the past couple thousand years without having government employees telling them what to do with their genitals. I'm perfectly happy leaving that to parents.

As for what her daughter's sexual behavior has to do with Sarah Palin being a hypocrite -- I'm still trying to figure that one out. I've no doubt she is a hypocrite, but I've yet to get my head around this vagina-by-proxy concept.
 

Phopojijo

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As for what her daughter's sexual behavior has to do with Sarah Palin being a hypocrite -- I'm still trying to figure that one out. I've no doubt she is a hypocrite, but I've yet to get my head around this vagina-by-proxy concept.
It's an irony that many find humourous.

Some people take it more seriously than that... but yeah...
 

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Public figures (and their families) are attacked with humor and worse on a regular basis. It is not extraordinary, it is the standard. If your skin is not thick enough, then you need to get out of the spot light.

But, despite her whining about it, that's not why Palin quit. She quit because it's costing her money & time.

She is facing a lot of "ethic" investigations brought on by The Left, The Right, and everything in between. The state will not pay the legal fees to defend her, so she must use her own money. By quitting she hopes to end most, if not all, of these investigations.

Quitting also gives her time to write her book, raise funds for her 2012 Presidential run, and keep her face prominent in the lower 48.



In the words of Woodward & Bernstein's "Deep Throat"... "follow the money."

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hal

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She is facing a lot of "ethic" investigations brought on by The Left, The Right, and everything in between.
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It must be noted that she's been cleared of every charge so far. You have to wonder if those charges were brought up because there were really seriously ethically questionable activities or if they were just another "tactic".
 

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So when is Arnie going to resign? California used to be a nice place, that had money.
You could say this about EVERY state right now. Everyone is having money shortages because of the high unemployment rate. Utah had millions in surplus in 2008 and then millions in shortfall in 2009.
 

Lizard Of Oz

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I never said anything about the validity or invalidity of the ethics lawsuits, I said they were costing her money. Whether she wins or loses, she still has to pay her lawyer. I get that information directly from things she has said since she quit.

Sarah Palin said:
"It's cost Todd and me. You know the adversaries would love to see us put on the path of personal bankruptcy so that we can't afford to run."

As to whether another pursuit for national office, as when she joined Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the race for the White House less than a year ago, would result in the same political blood sport, Palin said there was a difference between the White House and what she had experienced in Alaska...

Sarah Palin said:
"I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out"



Note: by "department of law" I think she means "White House counsel’s office".

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