To put everything in its proper little black cubbyhole: (plus I'm bored so I want to spam)
Mansonites are not goths. Manson is not goth. One however can be a goth and like Manson.
Tricky differentiation and one which leads to many a heated debate over Vampire wine and Clove cigarettes.
There are also what we call the BabyBats, or KinderGoths. They are just starting out in gothdom and tend to listen to the more mainstream "goth" stuff , such as Manson (see above) NIN, etc. They may have been BackStreet Boys fans as recently as 6 months ago. They tend to wear lots of stripey tights and pigtails.
You have here in SF more of the GlamourGoth and Old School Goths, those who live and die by Bauhaus, corsets, vintage gowns and black black hair. No filed teeth or vampiric tendencies here, their odd leanings tend towards the fetish scene more than living life in an Anne Rice novel.
And you have the "I'm not truly goth but I have dreads, piercings, tattoos, and wear lots of black and pvc so I hang out in the goth scene" types, of which there are more and more these days. These types tend more towards industrial music and are quite fun to be around, due to the constant opportunity to play "guess which area of my genitals I had pierced today?"
The scene varies from city to city, but there is always one thing in common, which any lonely goth can find no matter what club they go to...that one thing that binds us all.......
THE DREADED GOTH SPAGHETTI DANCE!
Ms. Troll
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