compared to what?this has been the most anemic recovery ever.
not counting 1929, the economy has never been in as bad a shape as it was in 2008. I say again, if you think ANY president could have gotten us out of a hole in 4 years that it took 10+ years to dig, you're an idiot.
inheriting shit is very different from creating shit.the failure of an economy that he has presided over.
Obama didn't create 1/16th of the deficit.
the mild recession that was present when Jimmy Carter took office was also not his creation, but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as the economy had gotten in 2008.We've dug deeper holes before (Jimmy Carter anyone?) and we didn't have this much trouble getting things going again.
these 2 era's do not compare.
Carter managed to reduce unemployment and decreased the deficit because his situation wasn't quite as dire.
he also didn't have to deal with the remnants of 2 massive (unpaid) wars and a bank bailout. he also didn't have to deal with a Republican party who would rather LET THE ECONOMY BURN than lose an election... as Zxan and Autopsy have so pleasantly reminded us.
no president in history has had to deal with such a terrible Congress.
if you think ANY president could have gotten us out of a hole in 4 years that it took 10+ years to dig, you're an idiot.What I do know is that sound economic policy would have led to a real recovery.
yes...demonizing business
right...
the president who gave the insurance industry millions of new policies.
the president who bailed out General Motors.
the president who saw the Dow Jones go from barely 8k to back over 13k.
he's so anti-business.
gosh golly gee whilikers. I wish he would support business more than he has.
you are unbelievable.
seriously??we think he's a bad person.
disagree with his policies all you want.
but he seems like a pretty nice person.
the level of discourse that your rhetoric has descended to is almost unconscionable. it would just be sad if it wasn't so shameful.
fair enough.Sorry I have to nitpick some of your examples but handing out a loan doesn't exactly equal "saving General Motors". Don't get me wrong, the money probably made the reorganization a lot less painful but GM turned around GM. Ford took a look at the package the government was offering, said "no thanks", and ended up doing better than any of the big three.
remove "saving GM" from the list.
it's still a nice list.
I'm just going by what the economists (who are not on Fox News payroll) have to say."Avoided depression" is maddeningly vague. We may as well credit the Obama administration for "avoiding alien siege".
and the agreement is virtually unanimous; the recession was headed for a lower point than it actually hit.
I happen to enjoy the fact that more people have health insurance than prior to the reform package. but I'm just a psychotic Marxist Liberal.Passing healthcare reform is a huge win if you happen to like that position.
imo it didn't go far enough.
single-payer (like the government and military enjoy) is the way to go. like every other advanced/industrial nation in the world.
so he fell short on a perfect economic recovery. no one is disputing this.Then there are those that just think... meh. He didn't get unemployment down as they promised in the beginning. He kind of continued a lot of the Bush policies. Nothing horrible happened... but neither did anything great.
so he made some lofty statements as a candidate that he couldn't live up to. no one is disputing this.
you think it's easy for a candidate to understand just how bad the situation is before he actually takes over at the helm?
you think every candidate who makes promises on the campaign trail lives up to 100% of those? promises?
let's not play naive, Hal.
you think McCain / Palin would have gotten us any closer?
you think Romney / Ryan would get us any closer?
since when did anything short of perfection come to mean OFF WITH HIS HEAD? I don't see how Obama doesn't deserve the chance to continue where he left off. I haven't heard Mitt Romney say a single thing that makes me think he will do better.
he talks with so many generalities that you have to wonder if he actually has a plan. he claims over and over again that he does, but he won't tell us what it is. there are no specifics. he won't really tell us anything about himself that doesn't sound like it came from an alien who is trying to emulate the average middle-class white man.
how anyone can look at or listen to Mitt Romney and think he sounds like an honest dude is beyond me. literally.
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