New and Improved UT3 UI

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Okay, I admit it. I made the post title slightly misleading on purpose. With the help of an "Anonymous Donor", I have created what may be the "best you can get" out of the current menu system. I have removed the industrial level behind the menu and replaced areas where it was visible with a static gray image. This makes the menu perform MUCH better in almost every way.

There are a few little niggles, however. First, the Character Customization screen has your character standing in black space. If you loved the level surrounding them, you'll hate what I have done. Second, the menu still loads a map, therefore the initial load time, while reduced, is still there. In other words, don't count on the menu just immediately popping up. It is still widely dependent upon your resolution/detail settings. Finally, there are no fancy moving backgrounds. I'm sure you will miss them greatly.

Pick up the map file over at BeyondUnreal Fileworks (100kb ZIP) and let us know what you think.

IMPORTANT NOTE: BACKUP YOUR EXISTING UTFrontEnd.ut3 FILE BEFORE COPYING THIS FILE OVER. The file must be placed in Unreal Tournament 3\UTGame\CookedPC\Maps.
 
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I don't mind waiting for a few extra seconds for the menu to load. The functionality is what matters to me most and that's what needs fixing.

This is pretty good though... I'm using it from now on.
 
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Sir_Brizz said:
Sick of the LOOOONG Main Menu load times and the mouse lag?
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You posted this on the Epic forums, but I didn't see anything in either post regarding mouse lag. How does this deal with mouse lag?
 
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Typically the mouse lag is caused by framerate choppiness due to the map behind the menu.
 
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So it doesn't do anything to fix the in-game mouse lag then?

A solution to that was offered up on the «BuA» forums by haslo:

haslo said:
The aim is off by a bit intentionally, it seems. Don't ask me why that is, guess it's to preserve the "natural feel" of the weapon being slightly to the left or right of your viewpoint when you show it.

You seem to be talking of something else though, since this is not a problem with the game/server software at all, but a configuration thing that can be changed.

Here, I found the tweak in a sticky:
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I haven't tried it yet, but I think I will later today...

EDIT: Here's the short of it, for those who don't want to read the whole thing:

Ultron said:
And now we look into the UTGame.ini.
[...]
bCenteredWeaponFire=True

The game default is to slightly offset where you aim, compared to where the crosshairs of your HUD are, to either the left or to the right of it, depending on what hand you use. If you set WeaponHandPreference to HAND_Right then you will aim to the right of the crosshair, for example. So I set the bCenteredWeaponFire to True to fire at the center of your crosshair by default, regardless of which hand you choose, or if you use Hidden.
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A m8 made a menu background with our clan logo, so start modifying your bg's and lets have a "wallpaper-thread". ^^ Still don't understand what went on in the head of the guy who thought "hey, instead of a animated gif, why not have a 60Mb generic map that has to load every time someone quits to menu lololol".
 
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Molgan said:
A m8 made a menu background with our clan logo, so start modifying your bg's and lets have a "wallpaper-thread". ^^ Still don't understand what went on in the head of the guy who thought "hey, instead of a animated gif, why not have a 60Mb generic map that has to load every time someone quits to menu lololol".
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Maybe he thought most of our computers could easily handle that? In my case he was right, the menu works great here.
 
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Wait...Who made this? Can we get a pic of it or something? I know you explained it, but a picutre is worth far more than simple text.
 
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Actually, a screenshot won't really tell you anything because it graphically and functionally is the same as the old menu system. The only difference is that the enormous level behind it is gone and replaced with a tiny level and there is no flyby or massive blurring. The flyby areas were replaced with a gray image that is essentially a screenshot of the flyby, so a screenshot of the menu would appear to be the same as the old menu system.
 
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Any ideas why the menu loading time is so long? I always thought it was because of the background level. I also didn't doubted that the same map was using all the different faction backgrounds.

Sigh.
 
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I thought about doing this but never bothered trying. Great idea, IMO. It's baffling to think Epic believes loading the main menu for ten seconds is a normal thing. Even on my system (E6850, 8800GT, 2 GB memory) it takes a fair few seconds -- enough to make it annoying.

However, this still doesn't fix the fact that the UI navigation sucks a fat one. The "Main Menu" button doesn't always go to the main menu. :p
 
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Kantham said:
Any ideas why the menu loading time is so long? I always thought it was because of the background level. I also didn't doubted that the same map was using all the different faction backgrounds.

Sigh.
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The remaining loading time on my map is simply the time it takes to load the smallest level. It depends on your detail settings and resolution settings, even though there are no textures to load and no lighting to calculate...

And all the faction areas WERE in the same map. :) You had to load them all whether you used those areas or not.
 
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