M-14 Rifle
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Originally posted by Gholam
If you're talking explosive ammunition, then it's not M16 or M16/M203 either, it's M79
Huh? The M-79 introduced the 40mm grenades, it's like the HK-69 we have in Inf, but it was the introduction of the M-203-equipped M-16 that began the loss of explosive firepower...because then we didn't have the M-14 with its rifle grenades.
The M-79 was a support weapon, and a very good one at that -- it was almost perfectly weight balanced, such that a decent grenadier could hit at decent range without even using the sights. It just "felt" right.
M79 was used alongside M16... and besides, M16 is quite capable of firing rifle grenades as well, I've seen M16's with rifle grenade adapters.
Really?
Perfect!!! Now, the U.S. Army has to go put in orders for a few hundred thousand rifle 'nades...the Brits have some really nice ones, folding-fin design so you can use them as either rifle grenades or hand grenades.
Tiffy? Can you fill us in on those? Could they fit, or easily be adapted to, the M-16?
Perfect!!! Now, the U.S. Army has to go put in orders for a few hundred thousand rifle 'nades...the Brits have some really nice ones, folding-fin design so you can use them as either rifle grenades or hand grenades.
Tiffy? Can you fill us in on those? Could they fit, or easily be adapted to, the M-16?
Its important a weapon be adaptable....
two problems.
1. theres a fine line in there where the job becomes better served by carrying a seperate weapon and a trained troop to use it.
2. If the targets so delicate you sent a squad of men(instead of a plane or tank), so entrenched you need RG's(in place of mortar or artillery fire), and so varied you still need 20mm 'super nades', then its time to rethink the oridginal plan.
if you just wanted to blow it up... hell, an a-10 coulda done that in under an hour
two problems.
1. theres a fine line in there where the job becomes better served by carrying a seperate weapon and a trained troop to use it.
2. If the targets so delicate you sent a squad of men(instead of a plane or tank), so entrenched you need RG's(in place of mortar or artillery fire), and so varied you still need 20mm 'super nades', then its time to rethink the oridginal plan.
if you just wanted to blow it up... hell, an a-10 coulda done that in under an hour
a small caliber ultra high velocity round, the 4,7mm rounds from the g11 have a flat trajectory out to 300m, on top of that you fire 3 in approx the same location.
The L85 was designed with the NATO Standard Flash Suppressor/ Grenade Adaptor, just like the FAMAS.
I don't know if the M16A2 has this, the M16A1 didn't. If it has you can use the multitude of NATO standard rifle grenades. The Frence make some really nice ones too you know
If the M16A2 hasn't had the addaptor designed in, or the M4 come to thet, then the answer is NO you can't use rifle grenades.
Now who wants to do the research, and remember to sya where you quotes come from and provide links if possible
Heres a scary thought for you all. The L86 ( the British Arm SAW) has the same Flash Suppressor/Grenade Adaptor and so could fire rifle greandes. Still I suppose its really just a heavy barrel, bipoded version of the rifle.
I don't know if the M16A2 has this, the M16A1 didn't. If it has you can use the multitude of NATO standard rifle grenades. The Frence make some really nice ones too you know
If the M16A2 hasn't had the addaptor designed in, or the M4 come to thet, then the answer is NO you can't use rifle grenades.
Now who wants to do the research, and remember to sya where you quotes come from and provide links if possible
Heres a scary thought for you all. The L86 ( the British Arm SAW) has the same Flash Suppressor/Grenade Adaptor and so could fire rifle greandes. Still I suppose its really just a heavy barrel, bipoded version of the rifle.
Tiffy, I don't know the details, but I saw an M16A1 with a rifle grenade adapter with my own eyes. I specifically asked the guy carrying it if it was a rifle grenade adapter, and he said that yes, it's a RARNAT (Rimon Roveh Nun-Tet - Anti-Tank Rifle Grenade) mount.
If i remember correctly the US dropped the rifle grenades for the m203, they later attempted to rememdy the problem with the RAW but that project was a dead end as the RAW's had accuracy problems, specifically a possibility of "Boomeranging"(sp).
i would like to see these rifle-grenades:
(i know that it was mentioned some months ago)
pretty cool and much faster reload than the 40mm M16 nades
and what about these cools door-rifle-bombs ?
(i know that it was mentioned some months ago)
pretty cool and much faster reload than the 40mm M16 nades
and what about these cools door-rifle-bombs ?
and here these door-bomb-things (i dont know their names) but they are attached on the barrel like the nades above. its called RIMON
Rimon is hebrew for grenade (and pomegranate), the photos you posted are of Simon door breaching munition.
That could be handy for assault missions, hint hint.
The M-16, I've discovered, can use rifle grenades. The U.S. Army' just deployed a specialized one, a hook-and-grapnel designed to clear minefields or something like that. They don't, however, appear to use regular RGs.
The M-16, I've discovered, can use rifle grenades. The U.S. Army' just deployed a specialized one, a hook-and-grapnel designed to clear minefields or something like that. They don't, however, appear to use regular RGs.