ACORN is at it again.(Investigation underway)

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The Dopefish

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I didn't say that early voting was wrong. I just said that it enables fraudulent voting to have a chance to occur. I don't have any problem with people who need to vote via absentee ballots or use overseas ballots. You can't say that it's bad that there are thousands and thousands of votes coming in before election day from from fraudulent sources.

I had to reread your last sentence a few times before I realized it made no sense in relation to your argument.

I thought the issue is that people are attempting to register fraudulently, not vote fraudulently.

Besides that, how does early voting enable fraudulent voting, and how is that any different from voting on Election Day?
 

unbecoming

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Stop trying to distract me.Hell even scare me with the last one you posted.

ID is at the root of the problem. I understand why most people don't want to go beyond a simple driving licence but there can be a few advantages to a personalized id card.
They will not use the ID because Jive Turkey,Mary Poppins,and Mickey Mouse could not vote then.It's too secure.

In this election, we decide which hole the government is going to stick their dick in.

QFT.However I just see it as you vote for socialism or capitalism -OR- traditional vs progressive.

Ban electronic voting.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Why bother voting at all? If people already think he's going to win, that must mean he will, right?

That's exactly what so many networks are trying to pull.Skew the facts and figures in hopes to get people to stay home.Propaganda machines.

Other than that, I don't think the impact ACORN would have, if any, would be significant enough to sway an election either way.

Depends on how bad this problem is.

Oh, and don't be surprised if there's another terrorist act. Things like that are known to boost solidarity with the president.

In an Obama presidency it's guaranteed imo.He's an open borders pro-illegal immigrant guy.

You'll post any old thing, have a warped idea as to what 'evidence' means and generally act like you're actually working spinning for the Republicans (NObama etc.etc.)

Evidence?In case you haven't realized our court systems are not perfect.There's people in jail and on death row that shouldn't be there,murderers walking the streets because of loopholes,biased or ignorant juries,greedy lawyers (OJ),etc,etc.So sometimes I refer to common sense and good judgement over what the media tries to spoon feed me.I've seen enough over the years to know what some Acorn offices pull and just because I do not need to wait for 6 months to for it to be confirmed in a court of law doesn't mean I'm wrong.

No need to insult me with the republican comment.I consider myself an independent,but will vote rep this time because I feel obama is a lying,anti-American,venomous socialist snake trying to change this country dramatically.Writing someone in is a waste.It's always choosing the lesser of two evils.I despise most of dems in office,but believe me when I say there are many reps that disgust me as well.

So as I've said before, it would definitely be crazy to respond to the types of stuff you post, almost like trying to have a debate with Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity.


I've watched them all-Stewart,Colbert(makes me vomit in my mouth) ,O'Reilly,Hannity, they all lean one way or the other,just some harder than others.

Your wasting your time arguing with these two. They are both idiots on this subject and Obama is rigged to win this election anyway.

Corrected it for ya.It's called debating.It only becomes arguing when insults are thrown because one cannot handle another's views,facts,or points.

ok... tell me this. Do you think OJ is (was) guilty of murder? Be honest...

I do.Don't need a judge and jury to tell me this.The courts make mistakes because the jury decides.The jury is human therefore not perfect.They can also be bought,biased,and even stupid in many cases.

Hey, here's a thought. The corruption at Acorn is actually something financed by the republicans and is made to look like it's the work of the democrats.

Now please award me with your political vomit.

lol.Yet if they do not fund them they are racist.Damned if you do,damned if you don't.

Everything they have done since then would make our fore fathers roll in their grave.

Would socialism not do the same?


I personally don't care about Acorn's voting crap.

I care about how Obama and Acorn sued banks because rates weren't fair. Which lead to some messed up loans, which lead to this entire mess. People blame the bank mess on the banks, but they didn't do these loans because it was good for business or made them money, but because they were forced too.

But I guess you guys care about dead people voting more. Sure, its a problem and it should be taken care of, but out of all the things that they did and all the things that matter what I said matters more.

Just saying..

As I said in my first post.They are a big part of why we are where we are now .If obama gets in there will be more of this.Things that look good initially yet will come back and bite us in the ass.Clinton had a part in this as well.

What he is saying is that Neo-Cons don't the same political beliefs that Democrats and the majority of the free world share. That makes Neo-Cons the black sheep and when the majority is against you, that's pretty cut and dry that you are wrong.

The free world is not voting for an American president.Some may be trying to influence our election,but their views,morals,and opinions should stay on the sidelines.If you are not happy here we grant you the right to move anywhere in the free world you like,although I cannot guarantee you will have the freedoms you have here.

How's that dem congress' approval rating?



Lake County, Indiana is a case worth investigating a bit further:

The reason is because ACORN themselves screen the registrations they collect, and they flag and sort out any that are clearly fraudulent, suspicious, or incomplete before turning in all of them—which they are required to do by law, obviously—into the country registrar.

It's kind of hard to do your job honestly when you have a stake in and can directly influence the outcome.They were selfish to say the least.It was the people they were harassing that broke the story,not acorn.


The actual truth in this trumped-up issue points heavily toward ACORN having been infiltrated and themselves defrauded by any number of rogue canvassers who sought to turn a quick buck, get paid, get out and maybe just maybe cause a dust-up along the way.

Infiltrated.Omg.lol.Let me catch my breath.So they are victims here?Hmm.Where have I heard that before?A simultaneous nationwide infiltration.It must be those damn republicans again.


One can argue chicken-and-egg, but let's not let half-investigations and carefully stoked mob chants of "ACORN = bad" dominate the conversation without hearing both sides of the story.

When I hear it from acorn employees and the people signing THAT is 2 sources from the one side.



I didn't say that early voting was wrong. I just said that it enables fraudulent voting to have a chance to occur. I don't have any problem with people who need to vote via absentee ballots or use overseas ballots. You can't say that it's bad that there are thousands and thousands of votes coming in before election day from from fraudulent sources.

Agreed.

Let me remove the sugar.

They are doing what they are doing because it's a bribe.Obama is going to give them money from the very people they despise.That deal is so sweet they will do whatever it takes to get him in.

Minimum wage will go up,which will strain or kill small businesses depending on how much the increase is.Cost will just be passed to the consumer anyway.Welfare will increase and by rewarding laziness you will spread laziness.The wealthy will send their money elsewhere or just leave the country depending on how bad he hits them.That should help the economy.

Obama also says he will not pass slavery reparations which I believe to be a lie.He will,he will just camoflauge it.I do not want to pay for something I,my father,my grandfather,and his grandfather had nothing to do with.Not to mention no one alive today was a slave therefore should not receive anything.I think it's an excuse to get freebies.


Basically I believe:

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.However some people just DO NOT WANT TO LEARN TO FISH,even when you give them a cane pole.

Many of you seem believe:

Social Justice-We are all created equal therefore I should have no less than my neighbor,regardless of who works more or has more skills.-A government babysitter.

They cannot even handle the responsibility they have now,and u guys want to give them power and work.What happens if things do not pan out the way you think?Do you think anyone will be held accountable for their lies or incompetency?Nope,but surely they will nicely paid regardless of their performance.That right there is part of the problem.
 

The Dopefish

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That's exactly what so many networks are trying to pull.Skew the facts and figures in hopes to get people to stay home.Propaganda machines.

Skew the facts
Skew the facts
Skew the facts
screw the facts
I love that gag.

Anyway, you are probably the most pessimistic, right-wing, vaguely racist person I've ever seen on the Internet. I'd pick and choose things in your reply to argue with you about but you're really not worth it.
 

BillyBadAss

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The free world is not voting for an American president.Some may be trying to influence our election,but their views,morals,and opinions should stay on the sidelines.If you are not happy here we grant you the right to move anywhere in the free world you like,although I cannot guarantee you will have the freedoms you have here.

Yeah, but they know the difference between right and wrong. Also, it's obvious that you don't subscribe to BBA Weekly or you would of known I am moving out the country so ha!
 

hal

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Apologize if it's already been posted, but here's McCain as ACORN's keynote speaker in 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qytuaimbk6U

Also, Obama said of ACORN today: "we don't need them."

Interesting, to say the least.

That's just as weak as McCain's ACORN whining.

He wasn't ACORN'S keynote speaker. It was an event in support of the stupid immigration bill that he tried to get passed and it was held at a college in Miami.

And of course people saying it was "co-sponsored by ACORN" neglect to mention that it was also sponsored by the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, the Florida Immigrant Coalition, People for the American Way/Mi Familia/Vota en Accion, UNITE/HERE, Catholic Charities, the Service Employees International Union, the New American Opportunity Campaign, and a few more. It sounds a lot more titilating if you say "co-sponsored by ACORN"

Stop reading propoganda.
 

Skold

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That's just as weak as McCain's ACORN whining.

It's horribly weak. i agree. Just like the Obama loves terrorists ****. Both sides need to stop.

To reiterate: it is very weak, just like you, Hal. Weakling.
 

Iron Archer

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It's horribly weak. i agree. Just like the Obama loves terrorists ****. Both sides need to stop.

To reiterate: it is very weak, just like you, Hal. Weakling.

If that had been directed at Liz... immediate infraction!

Anyways, yeh, BBA and the rest of you, just keep throwing the insults at us: idiot, racist, murderer, etc.

You guys are soooooo far gone... it's a mob mentality. You're so self righteous and sure of yourselves that you're not thinking clearly and frankly I shudder to think of what the lot of you would do to someone that does not agree with you in person.

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The Dopefish

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You guys are soooooo far gone... it's a mob mentality. You're so self righteous and sure of yourselves that you're not thinking clearly and frankly I shudder to think of what the lot of you would do to someone that does not agree with you in person.

The irony. I think I feel my brain melting from it.
 

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I love that gag.

Anyway, you are probably the most pessimistic, right-wing, vaguely racist person I've ever seen on the Internet. I'd pick and choose things in your reply to argue with you about but you're really not worth it.

Can you explain how he is racist or are you just calling him racist because he is against Obama and doesn't ignore everything that is wrong with him like you?

Seems to me to be the second.

unbecoming said:
As I said in my first post.They are a big part of why we are where we are now .If obama gets in there will be more of this.Things that look good initially yet will come back and bite us in the ass.Clinton had a part in this as well.

I agree and yes I know Clinton was involved.
 

unbecoming

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Yeah, but they know the difference between right and wrong. Also, it's obvious that you don't subscribe to BBA Weekly or you would of known I am moving out the country so ha!


Right and wrong.There is no standard for that.What you mean to say is you agree with their views.That means just that and only that.If something is working for Europe then good for them.That doesn't mean it will over here.

I can't say I'm sorry to see you go.I'm sure you will be happier there.Hmm.I just noticed your avatar title.Don't you think it's time to change it to something that better suits you,because I'm just not buying it with those pics and that 10lb chip on your shoulder.

When is your flight?


Image macros: For when your poorly formulated posts just won't do by themselves.

You must mean Jack then.You do need to actually look at other people's post as well instead of just stalking the one's you disagree with.It's kind of like trolling.Funny how you didn't post that under Jacks pics.

Sorry.I forgot about the double standard.
 

Airmoran

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Well, save the boobie macro posts. Those rock.

You must mean Jack then.You do need to actually look at other people's post as well instead of just stalking the one's you disagree with.It's kind of like trolling.Funny how you didn't post that under Jacks pics.

Sorry.I forgot about the double standard.
...What the f*ck are you talking about. I sure as hell meant Jack as well as Iron Archer, if not the thread in general. Image macro posts are vapid and I couldn't give two sh*ts about the posters who make them.

But hey, if it'll make you feel better, feel free to assume I somehow handed Jack some sort of immunity and go ahead, critique me on something I didn't do.
 
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unbecoming

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...What the f*ck are you talking about. I sure as hell meant Jack as well as Iron Archer, if not the thread in general. Image macro posts are vapid and I couldn't give two sh*ts about the posters who make them.

Ok my bad.It was just a coincedence it appeared after IA's post and not Jack's.No need to lose blood vessels over it.;) Just sick of double standards and hypocrisy.