That's because the engine supports more polies and therefore, 'curves'.
You're too used to the vectorman collection of panels that make up our models.
You're too used to the vectorman collection of panels that make up our models.
What is the Future of INF and Sentry Studios?
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IMHO, Joint Operations:TR & E, Battlefield 2, and RS:Raven Shield/Athena Sword have all these features to some degree or other. I never viewed them as "INF killers", not sure why anyone HAS to, mind you. I just like them better.
I personally am impressed with these. And I dont believe their features were implemented "poorly".
BTW, I love your sarcasm ,Crowze, way to go , man.
"Yes, there are lights."
LOL, awesome.
Of course, that's not what I meant, but hey, who cares, right?
@Zeep:
Thanks for the invite, I may just take you up on the offer. Hopefully there will be nice, friendly ppl playing with no cynicsm or attitudes, that would be really nice. Hopefully..........I like stuff like this.
And then I compare it to this:
http://infiltration.sentrystudios.n...y&file=index&do=showpic&pid=177&orderby=dateD
.......and for me, it just doesn't have it in comparison.
I mean, like I said, I used to like it. But it's hard for me to go back to it.
And then I compare it to this:
http://infiltration.sentrystudios.n...y&file=index&do=showpic&pid=177&orderby=dateD
.......and for me, it just doesn't have it in comparison.
I mean, like I said, I used to like it. But it's hard for me to go back to it.
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I don't get where this is going. Given our poly and texture limits, I'd figure it's an absolute given that there are things out there that look better.
Comparing a UT map that was made for version 2.80 (October 2000 - that is exactly 5 years ago) for free to a commercial game that has only been out a few months is hardly fair, nor is it relevant. There are many better looking maps for Inf. BF2, as they have even admitted themselves, is an arcade shooter, realism doesn't enter the picture at all.
But if you want to play that kind of game, fine. I'm just not sure what you are trying to do here.
But if you want to play that kind of game, fine. I'm just not sure what you are trying to do here.
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Those games all blow INF out of the water graphics-wise. But then you play them looking for realistic gameplay and realise they have NONE.
There are only two games that have realistic features that I wish INF had: AA and RvS.
AA has the authentic military feel with squads and some nice objectives in the maps. RvS has some cool ladder and door code. But that is about it. Those are the only good realism features they have that INF doesn't.
There is a good reason why many of us still play INF, there is NO OTHER realism game with ironsights out there that can beat the realistic gameplay of INF.
There are only two games that have realistic features that I wish INF had: AA and RvS.
AA has the authentic military feel with squads and some nice objectives in the maps. RvS has some cool ladder and door code. But that is about it. Those are the only good realism features they have that INF doesn't.
There is a good reason why many of us still play INF, there is NO OTHER realism game with ironsights out there that can beat the realistic gameplay of INF.
Featurewise there is more:
There are commercial games that have nicer implementation of scopes (small random movement) can't remember exactly but FarCry or CoD could be an example.
RO has a good implementation of machine guns where you can really use the bipod.
And there are aspects of graphic that affect gameplay a lot: smothly shaped terrain and wind moved fauna - like FarCry offers a new dimension of hiding and sneaking. Unlike now where people simply shoot every pixel out of position...
There are commercial games that have nicer implementation of scopes (small random movement) can't remember exactly but FarCry or CoD could be an example.
RO has a good implementation of machine guns where you can really use the bipod.
And there are aspects of graphic that affect gameplay a lot: smothly shaped terrain and wind moved fauna - like FarCry offers a new dimension of hiding and sneaking. Unlike now where people simply shoot every pixel out of position...
I am just showing a few examples of stuff that I like. I feel that it helps explain what I am trying to say as to why I feel that after playing games that look like this, it is hard for me to readapt to INF.
Yurch, yes, I agree, but IMHO you are just stating the obvious. This is what I am trying to show. These are the graphics that I am used to now, these are the graphics that I have come to expect now. THIS is the kind of quality I (am used to now)would be hoping to see in a NEW INF for a NEW Engine.
Please explain to me why it appears you guys feel this is simply unacceptable and foolhardy to believe in??? Or even to express in the forums?
Do you feel that SS is simply incapable of creating them? Or are you being in general negative and condesending because you can't help it?
Please explain, gentlemen.
Crowze, there is no game here.
That IS a screenshot of INF. I didn't create it, THAT IS INF. What's the problem? If YOU don't like it, I can't help matters because I posted an actual screenshot form INF.
And I still find relevance because these pics better help to explain my positon. Your dismissal of them simply does not matter. The statement was that I moved on from INF, NOT that you guys should stop playing INF BECAUSE these games are better for YOU. You yourself stated it was a screenshot form 2000, why hasn't it been updated then?
Is it my fault that your statement implies that INF is simply not of this kind of caliber and cannot compete? I am being unfair, how?
TBH, I don't really care that much what you play or don't play.I DO in fact support your decision to play whatever the hell YOU want to play, irregardless of my opinion. This should be obvious to you and everyone else here. This is simply not the thrust of my opinion though.
But disregarding a few simple screenshots of newer games that simply show quality of graphics implementation and turning it around and using it as some sort of platform is IMHO not a relevant nor helpful action, it seems you are skirting the obvious issue here.
There really hasn't been an emphasis on the realism factor in these discussions. I agree that I haven't compared reailsm features AS MUCH, but because the emphasis is again, the issue of graphics quality and SOME gameplay features that I would like to see in a FUTURE INF. AND, that this is PARTIALLY the reason why FOR ME, it is a bit difficult to get back into it like I once was.
This is not, nor ever was, an "INF SUX" thread. I don't know why there has been a turn for the worse here Perhaps because I am not exactly an INF "fanboy" to the extreme? I really don't know.
I am just adding some insight to my position.
The fact is that yes, for me, there are certain features that I like to see, and combined with the graphics quality make the game more attractive to me.
I believe there is passion in my post, I believe there is passion in many ppl's posts here as well, I just hope that it can be understood by all that having a passionate discussion of what we like is ok, but flaming, trolling , and flamebaiting should continue to not be considered as options. I hope we can be clear on this.
Thanks,
Death Touch
Yurch, yes, I agree, but IMHO you are just stating the obvious. This is what I am trying to show. These are the graphics that I am used to now, these are the graphics that I have come to expect now. THIS is the kind of quality I (am used to now)would be hoping to see in a NEW INF for a NEW Engine.
Please explain to me why it appears you guys feel this is simply unacceptable and foolhardy to believe in??? Or even to express in the forums?
Do you feel that SS is simply incapable of creating them? Or are you being in general negative and condesending because you can't help it?
Please explain, gentlemen.
Crowze, there is no game here.
That IS a screenshot of INF. I didn't create it, THAT IS INF. What's the problem? If YOU don't like it, I can't help matters because I posted an actual screenshot form INF.
And I still find relevance because these pics better help to explain my positon. Your dismissal of them simply does not matter. The statement was that I moved on from INF, NOT that you guys should stop playing INF BECAUSE these games are better for YOU. You yourself stated it was a screenshot form 2000, why hasn't it been updated then?
Is it my fault that your statement implies that INF is simply not of this kind of caliber and cannot compete? I am being unfair, how?
TBH, I don't really care that much what you play or don't play.I DO in fact support your decision to play whatever the hell YOU want to play, irregardless of my opinion. This should be obvious to you and everyone else here. This is simply not the thrust of my opinion though.
But disregarding a few simple screenshots of newer games that simply show quality of graphics implementation and turning it around and using it as some sort of platform is IMHO not a relevant nor helpful action, it seems you are skirting the obvious issue here.
There really hasn't been an emphasis on the realism factor in these discussions. I agree that I haven't compared reailsm features AS MUCH, but because the emphasis is again, the issue of graphics quality and SOME gameplay features that I would like to see in a FUTURE INF. AND, that this is PARTIALLY the reason why FOR ME, it is a bit difficult to get back into it like I once was.
This is not, nor ever was, an "INF SUX" thread. I don't know why there has been a turn for the worse here Perhaps because I am not exactly an INF "fanboy" to the extreme? I really don't know.
I am just adding some insight to my position.
The fact is that yes, for me, there are certain features that I like to see, and combined with the graphics quality make the game more attractive to me.
I believe there is passion in my post, I believe there is passion in many ppl's posts here as well, I just hope that it can be understood by all that having a passionate discussion of what we like is ok, but flaming, trolling , and flamebaiting should continue to not be considered as options. I hope we can be clear on this.
Thanks,
Death Touch
you really choosed the ugliest inf screenshot. i own raven shield and some inf maps are better graphicaly wise than RVs and the weapons models are generally better in INF.
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You forget AA and RvS both have separated high-ready and aimed weapon positionskeihaswarrior said:
.Meh I had some immense tactical fun with AA:O few years ago, so good that I still remember. Makes me wanna to try this again, but AA:O sucks.
@Vega-don:
Especially the EAS maps are so immensive good in INF, not worse than some high-quality RvS maps. But still. they aren't better.
@Death Touch:
Thanks, I thought I´m the one person here making such huge posts.
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I love INF. It was the 2nd Unreal mod that had what I wanted (the first being Sperpentine). I'm sad to see the team go on hiatus, but thats life.
Untill next transmission
Untill next transmission
/lurk off
i'd just like to note that just cause people might not play the game anymore doesn't nessesarily mean that then don't hope for a new inf. mod for one of the FPS games out there....
/lurk on
i'd just like to note that just cause people might not play the game anymore doesn't nessesarily mean that then don't hope for a new inf. mod for one of the FPS games out there....
/lurk on
Psychomorph said:
Well, AA 2.5 is not bad with it's new stuff. Still it is not Inf - but nothing is.
Man I get so disappointed with the lack of reaslism in new games that come out... They're all graphics and arcadish with semi-realism (CS style). No game developers take the time to put in the thought of "wait, does it really happen like that IRL?"
I guess my dream would be to learn computers at University and do it myself, and even make money out of it after all selling stuff is all about marketing. But that would take a while considering I still got 10 months left before I get out of the army.
I guess my dream would be to learn computers at University and do it myself, and even make money out of it
after all selling stuff is all about marketing. But that would take a while considering I still got 10 months left before I get out of the army.