Rogue's Second Political Poll- Ah, the stupidity of school...

Kulaks

You disappoint me RogueLeader

BTW

Kulaks were hte "richer" peasants (the one who own 5 chickens instend of 3 for example). When Stalin ridded the "right faction" of the Politburo the turning point was when the Kulak’s withheld grain. The City workers had little food, Stalin now took the left ideal that the indsutry must take priority over agriculture. Withholding grain was now criminal offence under Article 107 of the Criminal Code.


I did an eassy on "Why was Stalin successful in repressing his opposition in the 20’s and 30’s.
What were some of the events that happened in the Great Purges of the 30’s." Last year, its pretty trashing in my standards now, but I still now enough about it.

Wierd how I can just remember Article 107 of blah blah blah huh?

Sebu NZ

Sebu NZ: I currently attend ASP (American School of Paris). Its a great school.

As for the kulaks, yes they were the most wealthy farmers in Russia. Under regular communism, farmers found little need to work extremely hard, as they would have to give all their surplus goods (90% I believe) to the government. This basically means that if one hard working farmer makes 10 tons of wheat, 9 would be taken away (I am taking this from a history book). But if a lazy ass farmer would only make 1 ton of wheat, he would get to keep that at no loss. Under Lenin's NEP (New Economic Policy), farmers had to give 50% of their goods to the government, than they had to sell the rest of the surplus for cas, which in turn they could use to buy things. Therefore, the hardworking farmer would make 10 tons of wheat, give 5 to the government, and sell 4 to the marketplace, and be allowed to keep the 1 ton they have left. Whereas the lazy farmer would make 1 ton of wheat, give 1/2 to the government, and would only have HALF as much as the hardworking farmer to eat. Therefore the system rewarded hardworking and capitalism. Many communists were horrified at this preposition, even though it was only a temporary preposition. Stalin ended it as soon as he took office, and ordered the mass genocies of those hardworking farmes (who had recently become kulaks, as they now had more money to purchase better materials, some farm laborers etc.)

You can actually compare this to China. Mao Zhe Dong order the mass killing of thousands of landlords, and the courts that directed the trial were run by peasants themselves! Needless to say, the land owners always lost.

It proves again that there is never a communist government. It alwys begins nice and fluffy, but ends up as an opperssive regime.

Im amigo of mine is in the American school in Minala. He went to my school until about 1 year ago.

American School in Manila?

Did he mention a name? The main International schools I know in Manila are ISM (International School of Manila) and Brent (Catholic School).

Both are okay as far as schools go.

WEll basicly he says there are two schools in Minalla,

One based off the American system
One based off the British system

He goes to the American

(Edit: I think his talking about International Schools)

The American School...

Yeah, he is probably going to ISM. That is the school which is based off the American curriculum system.

Brent is based off the British system, and is a Catholic school (though not too strict).

Hope he enjoys the school

RogueLeader
there you go lumping people together again!!

dude, not all skoolz where like that!!

in my high school I was in the mits of the school shootings (1999) and we all played Action Quake 2 every morning and every lunch period in computer sci.

I would draw gunz ect.

you don't see that shiznick in Texas thats all I know. we don't put up with that. we'll take the federal money, but leaves your laws and strings at home!!

RogueLeader, where in the hell do you go to school? 6:00-4:00 and five hours of homework? I went to school from 8:00-2:30 and only did an hour of a homework on a night when I was being studious. As for your paper, you disregarded the assignment (write a narrative about an important event in your life) and tried to a smart-ass, witty paper. It obviously wasn't well-written or witty enough (if you post it I think we will find this out) to be given credit. Face it, you took a risk and you failed, now do the assignment again the right way. As for communism, in theory it would work and turn the world into a utopia, in execution it fails miserably, either turning into slavery, or a system where people take advantage of each other.

To wit for both sides of the argument...

Communism is a great concept, but when it has been <b> attempted </b>, it has failed miserably. I placed considerable emphasis on the word attempted, as as Rogue Leader put it, it has never really been achieved.

Capitalism looks like the single most ruthless and barbaric system in the world... on paper. However, we all know that it simply works. The United States (and most countries in Europe) know this, and consequently despise Communism. In WWII, the Allied nations were trying their <b>utmost</b> to point Hitler and the Nazi's towards Russia. They wanted to use Hitler as buffer between Communism. They saw Communism as a greater threat than Hitler. How ironic that without Communist Russia, WWII wouldn't have been won. To add insult to injury, they were the first ones to enter Germany. Furthermore, they became the 2nd most powerful country on the planet, next to the United States (the big ol' atomic bomb has a way of putting others in their place).

However, now that Russia has made the change to free enterprise... well, you see the results.

Rogue, I still think we all would like to read the paper you wrote. I also fail to see how you could consider having to write that paper an "important event" in your life. If writing that paper qualified, to you, as an 'important event in your llife', you definitely need to get out more! While I think your paper may have indeed been inventive, it was not the assignment given, thus your grade(although I do believe a '0' is a bit harsh). You have been given the chance to write the paper again, abiding by the rules of the original assignment, I for one, would take advantage of the opportunity given to me.

Oh, by the way, did you send in your rebuttal to Gary's ridiculous rant?

Well, I think it's a pretty fair guess that writing a paper you don't care enough about to follow instructions is not an important event in your life. Again, why don't you post the damn paper on the forum for us to see?
You just proved your own point by saying that true communism has never been achieved. It will never be achieved because human nature prevents it, and that is why communism, though great in theory, is inherently flawed in execution and will never be achieved.

And also, that comment about people taking advantage of each other in capitalism: That is exactly what capitalism is based on and a reason for its success. It is also why communism has failed - it doesn't take into account that people will try to exploit the system and take advantage of each other.

RogueLeader, you have pissed alot of people off now with your communistic ways including myself. I never said Stalin wasn't a communist so dont put words in my mouth god dammit. Secondly, the 5 Year Plan killed a **** load of Russians! Yeah, it did well alright... I'd hate to see YOUR version of bad... I would also like to know why you havent posted your paper? Does your paper not exist and you made this thread up in a futile attempt in twisting people's words and what they think while also attempting to get the attention of a handful of INF fans? I'm really just sick of a little ignorant communist prick twisting my words around to make me say something else...

Rogue Leader I think NRA1 reasoning of why captilism is a success is that all the richest countries in the world are based on Capitilsm and have alook at Russia now (sure it is capitilism but look what an attempt at communism did to its economy).

Also success can be ranked on how many capitlist countries there are as a percentage of the whole.

I think that is what he meant. Sure if you use other factors to measure the success of capitilism it will look like a failure.

RogueLeader
you seem to be a rebele without a cause, so you create one

schools and the US GOV are not as bad as you paint them

Rogue, I think you are fighting a no-win battle right now. There are many capitalistic governments in existence right now as opposed to...what's that, no truly communist ones? The fact that it hasn't been achieved while capitalism has not only been achieved, but has thrived, shows that it is a 'workable' form of government while communism is not.

The way I see it, communism will not work for another reason besides human greed: laziness. When everyone is the same and gets the same, regardless of the time of effort that they put in, it breed laziness. Why work if you're going to get the same as someone who does nothing. That is why I dislike the idea 'everyone being the same'. Everyone is NOT the same, some people have a better work ethic and SHOULD recieve more benefits than someone who does nothing. Why bust your butt working if you can get the same end result by sitting on your butt?

This thread isn't even about capitalism vs. communism...it's about a paper YOU wrote, got a bad grade..er..NO grade..on, and complained because you felt the paper was not graded on it's own merit. Fair enough, but for us to even attempt to agree with you, we first need to..SEE THE PAPER! Now I am more than willing to say "OK, you wrote a good paper and got screwed by your teacher", but I have to (3 guesses) READ IT first! To paraphrase from the movie "Jerry Maguire":"SHOW ME THE PAPER!!" Four pages, 99 posts, and we have yet to see this 'mythical' paper that this entire topic was based on.