Wait... who wants to make the game into something it's not meant to be by modifying the game into something it is not?
Just how exactly is something that doesn't touch the physics, weapon balance, scaling, movement and is completely optional...modifying the game into something else? Making maps competition worthy is more a matter of making maps that are built around the same gameplay UT3 was designed with out of the box.
I've never heard ONE person complain about UTComp for UT3 about how it turned the game into something else. It's NOT toying with physics, weapons or items (save for the trans, which is actually a huge deal to begin with). If anything it is enhancing it tastefully, intelligently, and to many people's enjoyment. I have yet to see where you can point out that it is detrimental to casual players
It's not misconstrued and has never been shown to be false. Almost every game that has a large competition base was, by and large, NOT made for competitive play and is most commonly modded to be appropriate for competitive play. Look at Q3A. Without CPM, it's not even really suitable for competitive play.
Has been many times, on many forums with a general consensus it is perfectly fine since it is something
optional for competition servers and no one's forced to use it, (although stock 2k4 skins are terrible and dark to begin with and many agree with that on several forums as well). The Q3 analogy is downright wrong. Q3A was, is, and always has been, THE most competition used Quake game. CPMA never had a single world series championship in any league, online or on lan and never surpassed the competition of any other Quake release. Vo0 dominated it, and guess what he isn't even a top in 8 QuakeLive. And that game is pretty much Q3A in a nice convenient package, with tasteful modifications that enhance the same game to make it even more competition worthy. What else? The game's activity put's UT*'s to shame and has thousands of casual players to boot. But in any case it doesn't really matter whether you THINK a game was or was not designed for competitive play because people will always be willing to mod a game with great potential to make it even better, if the game itself is good enough.
Games that are made for competitive play are almost never very good casual games (see Warsow, and, frankly, even UT2003). The two play styles don't really work together, they are mutually exclusive.
Huh? Both games were wonderful casual games. I enjoyed a good few years with both with nothing but casual play, along with several friends and people I know. Not sure what you're even talking about the play-style's not working together, other than they are two separate physics movements which require you to learn *gasp* them (not hard). Master them to become good? Yes, but it doesn't mean you still can't enjoy the game as a casual player.
I also think it's funny you mention the player interaction and skill and yet are defending something that emphasizes simplifying (def. to make easier) certain aspects of the game. WEEEEE!
I think it's funny how you're taking what I say out of context (def. reading comprehension, extrapolating information), but please do go on and continue with vague references that could don't make any relevant point or counterpoint.
