[lolitics]Your thoughts on offshore drilling after this mess.
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Nuclear waste
Solar and wind is the only option.
There's absolutely no way that we can even begin to get a comparable amount of power from solar and wind. I'm fine with researching them but we're not even close to being there yet.
I actually meant that Nuclear power is safer than things like oil and coal. Wind and solar don't generate enough to compete with these solutions on the same level. They can only act as supplements at this time.
Welcome to Tritium Springs, New Jersey. Don't drink the water.
Oh you mean that small Tritium leak that never left the plant, and posses absolutely no risk to the surrounding residents?
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You guys are forgetting the most important Renewable!! POOP!
There is so much freaking poop out there, if we could harness the cows and the humans, we would have a lot of freaking energy.
1. Poop in box
2. Keep box 97 degrees
3. Put lakewater in the box
4. Microorganisms in the lakewater eat the poop, fart out methane
5. Collect methane
6. Ignite methane, use combustion to spin turbine
7. ENERGY!
Between solar, wind and poop, we should be able to account for our needs. If not, it has the potential to teach conservation. For example, if you don't have enough poop to keep your TV on all day, turn the TV off, go outside, don't use as much energy.
I am hesitant to fully endorse solar power as it is currently envisioned. I have nightmares that all deserts in the Southwest US will be covered with mirrors, destroying the habitat for countless desert species. What will the snakes, lizards, and other animals do? Become shade animals? No, they will probably die. Just because we aren't using fossil fuels does not mean we aren't destroying the environment by installing renewable infrastructure. Wind power kills a lot of birds. Tidal power turns the ocean into a blender, and nuclear power is like painting massive targets for terrorist attack.
Therefore, POOP is the only truly viable answer.
There is so much freaking poop out there, if we could harness the cows and the humans, we would have a lot of freaking energy.
1. Poop in box
2. Keep box 97 degrees
3. Put lakewater in the box
4. Microorganisms in the lakewater eat the poop, fart out methane
5. Collect methane
6. Ignite methane, use combustion to spin turbine
7. ENERGY!
Between solar, wind and poop, we should be able to account for our needs. If not, it has the potential to teach conservation. For example, if you don't have enough poop to keep your TV on all day, turn the TV off, go outside, don't use as much energy.
I am hesitant to fully endorse solar power as it is currently envisioned. I have nightmares that all deserts in the Southwest US will be covered with mirrors, destroying the habitat for countless desert species. What will the snakes, lizards, and other animals do? Become shade animals? No, they will probably die. Just because we aren't using fossil fuels does not mean we aren't destroying the environment by installing renewable infrastructure. Wind power kills a lot of birds. Tidal power turns the ocean into a blender, and nuclear power is like painting massive targets for terrorist attack.
Therefore, POOP is the only truly viable answer.
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well that's fine and good, but Germany is about 1/30 the size of the US and we're much more spread out.
Kiff, so we should have more wind per person, no?
A friend of mine got a small grant and did a biodigester project in his village in the Peace Corps. They're neat, but what you come to realize is that it takes a lot of poop to produce even enough fuel just to cook, more than your normal family produces. The best way to do it is with a couple pigs or a cow. Biogas is another stop-gap fuel technology that we should be using in ALL our animal farming operations and sewage treatment asap, but it will never satisfy more than a small fraction of our energy needs.
A friend of mine got a small grant and did a biodigester project in his village in the Peace Corps. They're neat, but what you come to realize is that it takes a lot of poop to produce even enough fuel just to cook, more than your normal family produces. The best way to do it is with a couple pigs or a cow. Biogas is another stop-gap fuel technology that we should be using in ALL our animal farming operations and sewage treatment asap, but it will never satisfy more than a small fraction of our energy needs.
Ahahaha. hahahahaha. heh. Oh, Brizz. You're such a card.
And finally, to respond to the topic, yes I think we should continue to permit offshore drilling but NOT UNTIL we can design and actually implement stricter regulations on domestic and international companies that want to drill adjacent to our coastlines. Every indication in this debacle, as with the Exxon-Valdez disaster, point to the company being knowingly negligent. That kind of **** can and must be prevented.
This is definitely a good point, and I totally agree with you. However, I believe technology can provide some workaround. For instance, I know that most of the exciting work in nanotechnology involves its use as a catalyst (material to manipulate chemical reactions). If we could map out the chemical reactions that take place within the body of the microorganism that converts waste to methane gas, then we might be able to replicate that reaction in a different environment and use nanotechnology to streamline the process so it is more efficient.
It definitely needs work. Our current biodigester technology really only works if it is for a farm with 500+ cows. There's got to be a way to make it more efficient, and if we try hard enough, we may have a great strategy to add to the renewable penumbra.
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There is no magic energy hiding inside poop. Poop is waste material; most of the energy has already been extracted from it. By developing biogas we're taking back just another little slice of the pie of solar energy that nourishes crops which feed animals which feed our bodies and industry. But we can get more efficient energy capture per acre of land that grows food by eliminating the wasteful intermediate step of cows, pigs, and chickens and just grow corn or sugarcane for biofuel.
well, their population density is about 10x ours. the logistics for us to do it is much more complicated.
...from algae is still being developed. it would be a great source, but it's still in the future
we could use it as a weapon against a highly advanced alien invasion. shoot 'em with the 'tard ray
Wind and Solar are good but they aren't the answer to the problem because they can only supplement the problem here in the United States. Nuclear would be awesome if people would get over the stigmas and convince them to let you put one in their back yard. I do feel we need to move away from oil, but people can't agree on a direction.
This kind of tech is super exciting. But it's direct energy capture from the sun, which is a lot different than getting back some fraction of a percent of the original solar energy by capturing the by-product of organisms that decompose waste material.
15-16%, but yes, the point remains.
...which makes it all the more feasible. Renewable energy is best produced decentrally. It's a lot easier to power Kansas or Georgia via alternative energies than, say New York or Los Angeles.
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Nuclear waste
Solar and wind is the only option.
Wind kills birds like hydro kills fish. By golly we can't have that. Oregon tore down paid for damns that gave plenty of power to save the fish.
As for solar, I like it, I think every house should have it, in time, but it suffers when their is not much sun out.