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xMurphyx · 11th Aug 2012, 02:23 PM

Atheism isn't a religion. Reflecting on religion doesn't make you religious it makes you reflective.

cryptophreak · 11th Aug 2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ambershee

When your life expectancy is less than 30, it makes sense. You don't wait around to have kids.

Right.

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Originally Posted by Selerox

Then he was very religious. The fact that there's no god involved is irrelevant.

This is even more annoying than it is false, which is impressive. There's no religion involved, therefore he wasn't religious.

Selerox · 11th Aug 2012, 02:50 PM

Maybe "Religious" was the wrong word. Whichever way you spin it, if you're a die-hard atheist, then you're a devout believer in an unprovable system of faith.

I'd say that's religious.

cryptophreak · 11th Aug 2012, 03:41 PM

This will probably be my final response to that line of discussion which I have traversed too many times:

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Originally Posted by Selerox

devout believer

Atheism is comprised of skepticism, not belief.

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in an unprovable

Proof doesn't apply to skepticism, which makes no claims. Your statement is therefore correct but absolutely meaningless.

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system of faith

As implied above, there is no system or faith involved.

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I'd say that's religious.

Incorrectly so then.

Vaskadar · 11th Aug 2012, 03:42 PM

That's more 'private belief' than dogma. Extreme skepticism isn't a form of faith, it's a form of doubt. To say "I don't believe in a god" does not mean "God does not exist".

This thread has been derailed quite a bit.

ilkman · 18th Aug 2012, 11:45 PM

Speaking of vaccines, I received the small pox vaccine recently. Now there is a giant pustule of grossness on my shoulder. It should be gone within a few weeks.....or so I've been told.

Firefly · 19th Aug 2012, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by xMurphyx

Atheism isn't a religion. Reflecting on religion doesn't make you religious it makes you reflective.

and a broad-minded, free thinking person who can view the world through open eyes.

cryptophreak · 20th Aug 2012, 12:07 AM

I think there's a bit more to having open eyes than that.

11th Aug 2012, 02:23 PM	#21
xMurphyx Registered User Join Date: Jun. 2nd, 2008 Posts: 1,497	Atheism isn't a religion. Reflecting on religion doesn't make you religious it makes you reflective. __________________

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Selerox COR AD COR LOQVITVR Join Date: Nov. 12th, 1999 Location: TheUKofGBandNI Posts: 6,420	*I am not* making a value judgement on atheism.** Maybe "Religious" was the wrong word. Whichever way you spin it, if you're a die-hard atheist, then you're a devout believer in an unprovable system of faith. I'd say that's religious. __________________ "There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings. I am not aware of Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline for Christianity, in so far that Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse" - Professor Richard Dawkins

11th Aug 2012, 03:42 PM	#25
Vaskadar It's time I look back from outer space Join Date: Feb. 12th, 2008 Location: and face the mirror I still have to face Posts: 2,290	That's more 'private belief' than dogma. Extreme skepticism isn't a form of faith, it's a form of doubt. To say "I don't believe in a god" does not mean "God does not exist". This thread has been derailed quite a bit. __________________ Love is wise, and hatred is foolish. Last edited by Vaskadar; 11th Aug 2012 at 03:45 PM.

18th Aug 2012, 11:45 PM	#26
ilkman The Outcast God Join Date: Mar. 1st, 2001 Location: Pacific Ocean somewhere Posts: 3,560	Speaking of vaccines, I received the small pox vaccine recently. Now there is a giant pustule of grossness on my shoulder. It should be gone within a few weeks.....or so I've been told. __________________ Never trust small children who say "trust me".

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20th Aug 2012, 12:07 AM	#28
cryptophreak unbalanced Join Date: Jul. 2nd, 2011 Posts: 688	I think there's a bit more to having open eyes than that.