Maps Without a Story...

Stories are cool and if someone wants to write some go ahead but in the end its about the map itself
If I had to choose between writing no story or writing a tournament story I would choose writing no story. The entire "tournament" association thing is the worst possible thing you could do to your map story and theme wise

Hourences said:

Stories are cool and if someone wants to write some go ahead but in the end its about the map itself
If I had to choose between writing no story or writing a tournament story I would choose writing no story. The entire "tournament" association thing is the worst possible thing you could do to your map story and theme wise

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Agree.

You wouldn't want the story I thought up for my last map though lol.so I left it out. (DM-3pole2k4).

But I do like (if it's a cool map) to have a story ,wich makes things kinda nice to know before you enter the level.

Leave the stories to the SP mappacks.

... i disagree with you Proph. The way 7Bullets let players know some of the caracters via-log files here and there added to the involvment (ok, it should be wrongly writen ) the player felt while playing. The same way, a good, not-too-short-but-not-too-long description of a MP map is always welcome and add to it, possibly even elevating a common map (like many others), to a state of small distintion. If the authors have skill in creating the moody [cryptic] map description, that's entirely another different issue...

MH and SP/coop maps should always contain some kind of story in my opinion

2k4 maps, there is an easy way to write something for the maps description that shows up in the botmatch map selection screen, so there is no excuse there, i mean, seriously, use your imagination, its not hard, if you are really stuck just describe how the map looks, and add a few interesting words "an ancient valley, carved into the planet by some long ago glacier" ...see..its not hard

one of the really annoying things in the maps storywise however is... "how the HELL did i get here!" count how many maps actually have some kindof enterance into them, there's no door in/out of deck 16 ... no space shuttle orbiting face...

A story doesn't have to be words either, you can build up the picture by using subtle touches, like corpses and decaying skaarj...

I really enjoy a map that has a strong theme, not just the same old

"zomg its like a room, and you are never gonna get out coz theres no door!!!11mwahaha"

or

"dude, check out the awesome new platform floating randomly in deep space without any kindof oxygen or gravity control!"
"beautiful..."


Ice

Nahand said:

... i disagree with you Proph. The way 7Bullets let players know some of the caracters via-log files here and there added to the involvment (ok, it should be wrongly writen ) the player felt while playing. The same way, a good, not-too-short-but-not-too-long description of a MP map is always welcome and add to it, possibly even elevating a common map (like many others), to a state of small distintion. If the authors have skill in creating the moody [cryptic] map description, that's entirely another different issue...

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I'm not saying don't do it, especially if it is a 2k4 map. Nothing is wrong with adding a little info about the map or history (hell I'm not a hypocrit, I've done it). But generally you want to keep it on par with what the player is gonna see. I can't tell you how many novels I've read in reames for a low poly cube.

So basically all I'm saying is, if your gonna include a story keep it in reasonable size to the map. Unless of course your Dutch friend asks you for some story help because his english isn't that good and he wants a cool story for his CTF map

Mister_Prophet said:

[...] I can't tell you how many novels I've read in reames for a low poly cube.[...]

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... heh ...

Try this one if you want to read a good story->

Skaarjtower: shadow and fire

Yes, those are Sp/Co-op maps (tbh it's more geared towards co-op play).
A good read.

And those maps are well, incredible 0_° Tbh, it's gameplay over graphics here.
Although most outside areas look very nicely done/ok.

I actually like adding stories to maps. It's a lot less hard then making the map so it's kind of a relaxing thing I do after the map is finished.

People should indeed add stories, descriptive or even explainetory, to the map. It gives players a little more insite about all the architecture and maybe why some special features are there.

I see way to many good maps with no description at all, sometimes the read-me has some more info about the map, but not always.

And Ice, this is what I think about that "How the heck did the players get in there?" thing, but it's specualtion off course;
In Unreal Championship the intro shows the team of Malcom and Gorge being teleported away from the audience thing after Malcom selected a map on some JumboScreens. I dunno if it teleports you to a receiving machine on the other side, but it would be logical if it just would senf you directly in the arena.

XepptizZ said:

And Ice, this is what I think about that "How the heck did the players get in there?" thing, but it's specualtion off course;
In Unreal Championship the intro shows the team of Malcom and Gorge being teleported away from the audience thing after Malcom selected a map on some JumboScreens. I dunno if it teleports you to a receiving machine on the other side, but it would be logical if it just would senf you directly in the arena.

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ah, thanks dude, i've never played UC so i had no idea about that