Unreal Tournament 2015?

  • Two Factor Authentication is now available on BeyondUnreal Forums. To configure it, visit your Profile and look for the "Two Step Verification" option on the left side. We can send codes via email (may be slower) or you can set up any TOTP Authenticator app on your phone (Authy, Google Authenticator, etc) to deliver codes. It is highly recommended that you configure this to keep your account safe.

leilei

ANIME ELF'S !!
Jan 20, 2008
575
8
18
People love their gun porn too much. Think of the big TCs that came out for UT. Almost all of them were realism mods.

Counter-Strike was a huge "me too" influence and so was Bid for Power for all those DBZ mods. The current flavor of the week is STILL "lets make zombie game" and has been for a long time. :/

Fortunately zombie games aren't competitive and are usually nothing more than "lets fight dumbed fuzzy logic" so I guess we can rule that crap out.
 

Spiney

New Member
Jun 12, 2010
187
0
0
As a hobbyist level designer, I disagree.

If there's one thing Epic Games always has done right it's their engine.

Oh no, UE is one of the best in the biz. I just meant to say that improved tools won't lead to shorter dev cycles. Games are getting more and more complex to make, even the best tools in the world won't offset that -- talking from the usual big budget production perspective here, indies are a bit more nimble there.
 

Kantham

Fool.
Sep 17, 2004
18,034
2
38
Oh no, UE is one of the best in the biz. I just meant to say that improved tools won't lead to shorter dev cycles. Games are getting more and more complex to make, even the best tools in the world won't offset that -- talking from the usual big budget production perspective here, indies are a bit more nimble there.

So you're basically saying no engine will do jackshit.
 

leilei

ANIME ELF'S !!
Jan 20, 2008
575
8
18
No, he's saying the gaming world is ruled by companies that can afford chinese labor.
 

ambershee

Nimbusfish Rawks
Apr 18, 2006
4,519
7
38
36
Nomad
sheelabs.gamemod.net
Oh no, UE is one of the best in the biz. I just meant to say that improved tools won't lead to shorter dev cycles. Games are getting more and more complex to make, even the best tools in the world won't offset that -- talking from the usual big budget production perspective here, indies are a bit more nimble there.

Tools are the number one thing that cuts development time down. You can throw all the manpower and money you want at something, your tools and pipelines are always the limiting factor.
 

tomcat ha

Well-Known Member
Feb 2, 2002
2,819
56
48
35
Visit site
a lot of game studios are really inefficient.
Just look at the graphical fidelity bohemia is managing to pull off with arma3 or arma 2 at launch.
Sure these games were buggy but they were made with a fraction of the budget any cod was made with.
 

ambershee

Nimbusfish Rawks
Apr 18, 2006
4,519
7
38
36
Nomad
sheelabs.gamemod.net
Sure these games were buggy but they were made with a fraction of the budget any cod was made with.

They really weren't. Do you have any idea how much money gets poured into military simulation software? It's how Crytek managed to expand so quickly without putting out any games. ARMA is a side effect of a real product.
 

Spiney

New Member
Jun 12, 2010
187
0
0
So you're basically saying no engine will do jack****.
Nice vulgar extrapolation there, you should become a politician :lol:

Tools are the number one thing that cuts development time down. You can throw all the manpower and money you want at something, your tools and pipelines are always the limiting factor.

Sure they're a limiting factor, i'm not denying that. If Weta upgrades their pipeline it will be more efficient, but no single employee is going to make Lord of the rings simply by having ungodly efficient tools. Planning, structure, expertise, art direction etc are all just as important. Having more gizmos and a cleaner ui in your map editor isn't going to halve your individual dev time when you're going from 512 textures to having to model individual eyelashes on every character. And these things are all design decisions.

No, he's saying the gaming world is ruled by companies that can afford chinese labor.

:D