BioWare Denies Mass Effect 2 Censorship

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Sir_Brizz

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For those of you who recall the controversy present over the so-called "sex scenes" in Mass Effect 1, you'll be interested to know that the same type of scenes in Mass Effect 2 are greatly simplified. Of course, you can do a quick YouTube search and bring all of them up right away, but BioWare has denied charges from the community that these scenes were made more tame in the sequel to avoid criticism and controversy. BioWare's Stanley Woo responds:

It's kinda funny that this topic keeps coming up over and over again. People who claim to be old enough and mature enough to handle sex and nudity in a game seem to believe that any lack of sex and nudity in the game is a sign of self-censorship. They generally don't believe that a game can be called "mature" without explicit sex and/or nudity.

Let me tell you, folks, that as a developer full of mature individuals, we are also free to not have explicit sex and/or nudity in our games, no matter what you, Fox News, the government, or Bunky the Wonder Clown has to say about it. We have never considered it a "problem," it is simply a choice we have made and we have every right to make that choice.

What do you think? Censored or just simpler?
 

Kantham

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I still shake my head when I think about Fox New's desperate move on ME1 "se xbox" (yeah they thought they were so right didn't they?) yet they have no clue what exactly the game is about. The deepest erotic connection the game has to offer is Miranda standing over you cowgirl style with her bra exposed. WOW, call-a-COP! It's simply censored and should stick on that. If they'd ever get into showing a pair of racks, they'd get about 6K angry soccer mom calls.

If you make a game that is sort of.. uh, "Halo-centric" kids will all want it. I guess that's why Dragon Age: Origins never was a problem here..
 
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Bersy

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I say good for them.. and fully agree.. tired of that stuff being pushed left and right. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should. If it for some reason served the game, rather than simply being there to give the nerds their jollies, I could see saying "okay let's do it", but people treat sex in entertainment as almost prerequisite nowadays.. Give people some credit, folks and realize that if a product is good it will sell and be liked, sex or no sex.
 

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Their decision. I don't think censorship had any part in this. It's not like sex-controversy ever hurt sales, unless it got the product banned or an AO rating, and both MEs are a far cry from either.
To me it just shows that they aren't after the quick hormone driven teenager buck because if they were they would have advertised it somehow and made it a little more graphic than in ME1. Seems like they just needed the scene for the story and that's the way they chose to portray it. Fine with me.
 

Zur

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ME1 had a sex scene and nudity? Then Desperate Housewives must be hard core pornography.

Indeed. I'm still having trouble getting over the wet kiss Eva Longoria gave to Teri Hatcher.
 

Fuzzle

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Feh. I played through ME1 three times and plan to do the same with ME2, and I never even approached the romance subplots. I just find them more cheesy and awkward than they are worth.

I actually think it's a little depressing that "mature" equals either sex or gore. Ironically, I'm more likely to find the use of sex and gore in games to be juvenile, and the people who find these things cool and mature tend to be teenagers going through that "mario is for kids" phase.

When Age of Conan was coming up, the only people who were genuinely wow'ed by the gore and tits were people who weren't even old enough to buy the game.
 
It is simpler, and nothing else I think.

Fuzzle said:
I actually think it's a little depressing that "mature" equals either sex or gore. Ironically, I'm more likely to find the use of sex and gore in games to be juvenile, and the people who find these things cool and mature tend to be teenagers going through that "mario is for kids" phase.

Generally I agree, but it's mainly in games like GTA where these things are done for those kinds of reasons. For those playing Mass Effect...if the presence of nudity at the end seemed like a logical conclusion to the consummation of a relationship, then the dev team did their job. If not, well at least the context can be taken different ways.

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I don't think ME2 is more mature, however, for omitting these scenes. I think they sold the entire relationship aspect short with the second try, and it goes way beyond a discussion about the presence or non-presence of sideboob. In its own way, the relationship option in the first game was a novel concept. The second game, if they were to incorporate these things again, should have been an opportunity to expand their ideas of what could be done in player interaction. Instead, ME2 is a "safe game," and more aspects than the relationships suffered a little because of it.

I'll put it this way. ME1 was a game I played that introduced a complex intergalactic stage where the player takes center just as humans are trying to get political footing as newcomers. As Shepherd, I had to balance the complexities of an evolving story as I took the reigns as a representative of sorts for my entire race as well as playing space cop. I had to build a team based on trust, kind of a microcosm of what was going on elsewhere, and the game pushed the envelope of how these relationships can end or where they could go. ME2 was a game with better combat flexibility than ME1, multiple romantic interests, less frequent but ultimately more fleshed out sidequests detail-wise, simplified menu systems to keep me in the actual game more, and all of this was served on a continuation of the first game's plot about the Reaper threat while also serving as a stepping stone to the next episode. Can you spot how these two descriptions differ?
 
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