Make it a pc franchise once again and let the console boyz have their gears of war.
Sounds like a sound theory to me.Most don't want UT anyway.Its too hard.
Well, going back to basics and restoring both the atmosphere and the many customization options / mod support of the original (and 2K4) would be a good start. This is what made the game unique back then, and (ironically) this is what would make it unique now.
Also: more weapons, including 'real world' guns, melee weapons & really crazy sci-fi / magic stuff, extremely brutal combat & gore (think Mortal Kombat as a FPS), and a varied cast of characters, including bizarre aliens and scantily clad women. Live dismemberment. Wounded crawling. Executions. Interactive (partially) destructible environments, traps, distinctive maps with strong, diverse themes with fitting music. Vibrant colors, none of that grungy blandness. No SP campaign unless it's really good.
Excellent bot support. None of that cheap wallhacking crap and other typical bot cheats, make them behave more like real people. Put a little effort into it, most people will be playing this game offline, after all.
Brightskins ONLY AS AN OPTION. FFS!!
Don't be afraid to be a bit controversial; controversy sells, castrated blandness doesn't.
NO ****ING GAYSPY!
NO ****ING CONSOLES!
Etc.
That's the kind of game I'd play, and pay good money for.
Will they (Epic) do it? Of course not, they got GoW now and don't give a ****. But maybe someone else will, someday. I really don't care whether or not it's called UT, or has anything to do with that particular universe, as long as it has the above features. I'd love to see a UT-ish game developed on a, say, 2020 engine. Photo-realistic gore ftw!
Agreed with most of that.Unfortunately you won't get 10% of it.
PC gaming is dead. (Other than crap like WoW)
So nothing will revive it.
And even if PC Gaming wasn't basically dead, no one plays good awesome fast paced shooters these days; it takes too much skill for kids now to get interested.
Dead means no draw to me.You should say under attack.People do want good pc games.It's just being killed by devs imo.All we get is ****ty ports with clunky controls and so on.
There's still a draw for it,but why do extra work when you can just take the easy way out,jump on the console bandwagon,and make just as much coin or more.The games can be less in just about every way imaginable.I won't even go down that list.
Your last statement couldn't be more accurate tho.
I don't think Epic killed it, I think it was a foregone conclusion from the very beginning. A game like UT (and, by extension, Quake 3) are doomed to failure because the barrier to entry is much higher than any other kind of game. As PC gaming has become more "mainstream", less people care about deep, strategic gameplay. They like Halo and Gears of War. Games with simpler gameplay, lower barrier to entry, easy competition.
I look back at lots of games from the late 90s and games today just don't compare to them. I think a lot of people who look back at the UT series fondly mostly do so in an "old fogey" kind of "the good old days" way.
The simple fact of the matter is that UT will never be popular again. Epic could make the ultimate, awesome, great, perfect for everyone UT game with perfect competitive options, great stats and everything everyone could ever want out of it, and it would still turn out the same way.
U may be right,but I guess we'll never know since they decided to take the easy way out while saying FU to the pc'ers.UT with controllers?Come on that's just laughable to me.
Not if you have cross-platform. The PS3 has kb/m, maybe the next gen console will have it too
I believe that SP people that have a good first impression of online will stick around.
That's part of the problem right there.For this type of game there CAN BE NO CROSSPLAY.1 of 30 bad things that would do is force someone with a
$ 2500.00 pc to play like he using a nintendo.So that move would only help consoles yet again. Maybe for tetris or something for cross platform,but never for a fast shooter.
Come on, UT was never meant to be deep game. It's a classic fast-paced shooter aimed at quick skirmishes, however UT3 failed at this point as characters as not nearly as agile as they were in Ut2004.
I saw first hand many times the moves made newbies run plain and simple."ZOMG he's in the air how in the hell am I to kill him -RUN!" WTF is that?He has flip hax.Bail!
However I did introduce the game to many of my friends (20 to 30 yr olds mind u) and it was often one of their biggest praises about the game -the moves.
They were like "It's about time we get to do more besides strafe,prone,crouch,and jump" and "These moves make the game so much more intense" and so on.It did definitely made 2k4 unique.
Excluding an 80% that has never, ever, given the UT franchise a fair shake? absolutely!
All the Xbox owners of the world are no good to you if they don't buy and play the game, and not a single UT/UC title released on the Consoles has done even remotely well, it's obviously not what Consoleros want, they want GoW and Halo, UT is barely even a curiosity to them..
The PC market has allways been UT's niche, and any step taken twords making UT more Console accessible will only hurt it in the PC market where it actually has some potential, the only problem is, Epic has consistantly failed to grasp this since UT, 2003 was origionally ment for the Xbox and it suffered for it, 2004 was a step in the right direction (PC) but was too big a departure from what made UT so good in the first place, and now we got UT3, another Console minded venture that has once again suffered for it, PC players aren't keen on it, and the Console versions once again sold poorly and are collecting dust on peoples shelves.
UT is never going to be a GoW killer for Epic, but if a genuinely good UT was made for the PC, one that is a good modding platform, is rich in features and customizability, and recaptures the feel and play of the origional without spoiling it with gimmicks, i am confident it would sell, and make Epic some money, games don't have to be top-of-the-sales-charts material to be profitable, but they sure as hell do need to be aimed at a viable market that will buy it, and the Console versions have prooven time and again that Console's aren't it for UT, the PC is where it has a real chance to move some copies and gain following, but it must be a good PC game for that to work.
The PC market is starved for good games, and that could actually be UT's chance of a revival, but it'll never happen unless Epic once again takes a chance on the PC (and i very much doubt they will).
Go post that on Epic's boards.That's a bannable offense.Pretty much said the same thing over there a few times over the last year and it equals ban every time no matter how much sugar u put on it.They'll never get it,therefore UT will likely never prosper again sadly.
They used to be pc first,now they're console first so I cannot see pc'ers getn squat,but the very blame for their "taking the easy way out".I'd luv to be wrong,but I feel epic sees the situation like a 12yr old would.
GOW Raked / UT3 tanked - pc gaming must be dead.It can't be anything on our end.They fail to remember GOW -built for console -win.UT3 built for consoles(who predominantly don't want shooters like that) and leftovers to pc-fail.Not so hard to figure out.
What would revive UT?Oh I don't know-new ownership for starters.Someone that at least understands that you cannot pass off table scraps for steak.
