God is the strangest conspiracy theory ever.
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No. That statement is basically assumption. Hawking doesn't believe (Prominent physicist). Neither does Michio Kaku (Another prominent physicist). Einstein did, but he's dead (Pantheist). Most physicists, biologists, and geneticists don't exactly believe. Richard Dawkins is an Atheistic. Collins believes in a god, he's an evangelical, but he's among the four percent of scientists who are evangelical, obviously among the minority. Carl Sagan was Agnostic.
This was a survey done on the American Association for the Advancement of Science. Of the scientists, men are less inclined to believe. In the 65+ years range, the study yielded that 48% don't believe in either a god or a universal power. Physicists who are Atheistic are the majority. Those involved in Geosciences are the most Atheistic at 47% atheists/agnostics. On average, 41% of all scientists surveyed are atheistic/agnostic 18% believe in a higher power, 33% believe in a god. The majority in that group is atheistic.
I'm inclined to believe that you're going to defend your position by asking for my source for these statistics.
http://www.pewforum.org/Science-and-Bioethics/Scientists-and-Belief.aspx
I'm also inclined to believe that you have put little to no thought into that statement.
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Its funny because I think two other people people who posted after I posted whose sex drives might be gone or "facing the other way"
I don't really care about your statistics because nothing you just said refutes what I said in any way shape or form. I never said "All of the greatest scientific minds in the history of the world have believed in God" and I never will. "Many" doesn't imply any kind of a number or percentage whatsoever.
you know I'd rather step on my own testicles than agree with Brizz, but he's got a point 
here, a Vatican scientist (yes they have those, including one of the nicest telescopes on Earth) explains to Bill Maher how science does not have to be at odds with faith.
there's some other stuff in this clip that doesn't necessarily relate to the topic at hand, but it's the best I could find in a pinch. when I get more time I'll see if I can find the full chat with the Vatican astronomer.
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5ACyiSPAmE[/m]
so yeah, there's plenty of smart and educated people that still find reasons for believing.
you know I'm as atheist as they come, but you gotta be willing to see both sides of the debate if you want to provide meaningful input.
here, a Vatican scientist (yes they have those, including one of the nicest telescopes on Earth) explains to Bill Maher how science does not have to be at odds with faith.
there's some other stuff in this clip that doesn't necessarily relate to the topic at hand, but it's the best I could find in a pinch. when I get more time I'll see if I can find the full chat with the Vatican astronomer.
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5ACyiSPAmE[/m]
so yeah, there's plenty of smart and educated people that still find reasons for believing.
you know I'm as atheist as they come, but you gotta be willing to see both sides of the debate if you want to provide meaningful input.
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Pffft. Hawking doesn't believe in silicon heaven either. If I were to meet him in person, the first question I would ask him is "If there's no silicon heaven, where do all the calculators go?"
People with short attention spans can skip the first 45 seconds or so.
[M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4wqAJTu19o[/M]
here, these videos are a little more focused on the Vatican astronomy portion of the movie:
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVOonvm1qOg[/m]
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9FdbGxbSk4[/m]
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVOonvm1qOg[/m]
[m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9FdbGxbSk4[/m]
This is my bet. I've always thought that religion was just an elaborate control device. When you think about it, there's not really anything coincidental about it; Christianity, Judaism, and Islam have all had thousands of years to circulate now, so the idea that they're 'global' isn't all that far fetched.
Remember that there were gods way before God, Yahweh, and Allah came along; it's entirely possible that civilizations switched to the currently popular religions over the millennia because they were a much better control device than Zeus (ancient Greek) or the Capitoline Triad (ancient Roman.)
Let us also not forget that God, Yahweh, and Allah are pretty much the same entity, just worshiped a bit differently and with a slightly different backstory depending on whether you are Christian, Catholic, Islamic, or Jewish.
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You've missed hal's point; religion wasn't the object of his question regarding a theoretical "global power play." He was referring to the plurality of what he calls "seemingly-inexplicable things."
I like this, because it paints God as a janitor to tidy up the inconvenient gaps in our knowledge, therefore as we explain more phenomena God is closer and closer to being out of a job -- and ultimately irrelevant.
I like this, because it paints God as a janitor to tidy up the inconvenient gaps in our knowledge, therefore as we explain more phenomena God is closer and closer to being out of a job -- and ultimately irrelevant.
I don't agree. If God was real, he would have never allowed us to fuck things up this bad.
dude, message from our bud who did something m0tarded and now has read only access:
Plumb_Drumb said:
so this is me drooling for all over the monitor
Stop playing messenger boy for him. He got punished for being an idiot. Now let him serve the punishment, otherwise he won't learn anything.
Not to imply he'd learn anything anyways, of course.
I hope you know that that's a terrible argument.yeah well it doesn't make them appear any less crazy
so is most of religion.
"believe in god because this ancient book says so."
wearing undergarments that you believe will protect you from evil is a little crazy.
let's just agree on that for starters.
I'm not sure God's existence hinges on whether he would chose to be a non-dick, though I do agree that he doesn't exist, leaving me baffled as to why you preceded with this: