TF2

T2A` · Feb 29, 2008

Soldiers weren't the problem. It was all the Demoman! Seriously, every game I played I ended up against a wall of grenades and sticky bombs.

I haven't played the game in quite some time. Perhaps I'll give it another shot with this patch.

[xF]PR3D470R · Feb 29, 2008

FlashIV said:
Medics are easy but you have to know what you are doing, or else you'll probably just make your teammates angry. You really need to use the voice chat if you play medic. Scout is pretty straight forward with his "shotgun", pistol, and double-jumping...he also counts as 2 people if standing on a capture point. Soldier would be another decent choice for starting out. More health than the scout and your standard issue rocket launcher and shotgun, he's really slow though.

I played a lot of the spy when I started out. You can go out on your own and don't have to worry much about teamwork. Though I started playing during the beta when spies were easy to play and it wasn't too hard to fool the enemy. Nowadays though, everyone (engineers and pyros in particular) are very paranoid and "spy-check" a lot.

Just keep an eye on teammates to see what they're doing. Where they're running, shooting, setting up sentries, etc...

Scout sounds like a winner to me, similar to the tech in XMP it sounds like.

Thanks for the advice

:tup:

Big-Al · Feb 29, 2008

^well scouts don't pack a punch... and are weak. so they do have a downdite but feel like they are straight out of UT2004

TF2 is a true team game!

SlayerDragon · Feb 29, 2008

Well, I think scouts are pretty strong. The random crits are a pretty good equalizer in this game, and with the scout it can be fun to run circles around people and bash them with your t-ball bat.

If a scout gets close to you it is pretty dangerous, I'd say. That scatter gun will do a number on you from up close.

My most used class is soldier because I'm basically too dumb to use other classes.

Airmoran · Feb 29, 2008

facade said:
I'm thinking about giving this game a go next week (I've had the Orange Box since November). Any good advice to try and dull the learning curve?

Start as the soldier. The class is the closest to traditional DM gameplay. Usual rocket launcher rules apply: aim for feet, use splash damage. Just remember to be *always* reloading.

T2A` said:
Soldiers weren't the problem. It was all the Demoman! Seriously, every game I played I ended up against a wall of grenades and sticky bombs.

You can dislodge and shove pipe-bombs out of the way by simply shooting them. At first it feels risky and unpredictable, but after a while you start noticing scenarios where you can safely disarm a pipebomb trap.

Zarniwoop · Feb 29, 2008

The scouts baseball bat is extremely useful. Use your speed to flank the enemy then whack 'em round the head.

This video shows how scouts fit into the state of the game.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j59kujK004o

[xF]PR3D470R · Feb 29, 2008

ZarniwoopVanHarl said:
This video shows how scouts fit into the state of the game.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j59kujK004o

I just watched that not too long ago. The TF2 wiki is extremely useful for learning about the game. Scout looks like a lot of fun!

Thanks for the advice everyone

Big-Al · Feb 29, 2008

I like the Pyro best

-Jes- · Feb 29, 2008

"He won't be able to hit you with a rocket from a medium distance."

Obviously this scout "pro" hasn't met a worthwhile soldier throughout his play, as medium range is where I get most of my kills on scouts!

Seriously, the soldier who still uses shotgun up close in that vid is a surefire sign that the kid hasn't played any form of Quake/Unreal game ever, not to mention why isn't he JUMPING?
I believed that the promo videos Valve made with the jumping soldiers was enough to point out the effect of bouncing rocketslingers,but apparently not.

*Sigh* Has it really become so bad that we need tutorials on how to whack first-day newbies these days?

Twisted Metal · Feb 29, 2008

Big-Al said:
wow, latest steam update for TF2 has some Class balancing

* Reduced Soldier's maximum rocket reserve ammo from 36 to 16
* Reduced Demoman's maximum sticky bomb reserve ammo from 30 to 16
* Reduced Demoman's maximum grenade launcher reserve ammo from 40 to 24

http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=news&id=1464&

What are you doing Valve?? You don't fix something that's not broken.

LedZep · Feb 29, 2008

quick question about TF2

I got a 2.6 ghz dualcore intel, 9600 radeon standard edition, 1gig ddr1 ram, would I be able to run this game at 1280*960, 75Hz, with all settings low (except for player textures maybe?) at around 40 FPS average? (not go below 15 ever)

thanks

toniglandyl · Feb 29, 2008

only 1 way to be completely sure...

if you don't like it, can I have TF2 ? é_____è

-Jes- · Feb 29, 2008

LedZep said:
(not go below 15 ever)

On that rig? I doubt it.

9600's are getting pretty aged these days.

LedZep · Mar 1, 2008

I'll probably get it once I upgrade my computer, which is gonna be after the warm season

SlayerDragon · Mar 3, 2008

Jackal and I went ahead and got a TF2 Server running. It's a 16 slot server located in Chicago, Illinois and hosted by Art of War Central.

Right now it's pretty much stock setup, I have metamod and sourcemod installed so I can do some admin consoley stuff. Respawn timer is instant, but that can be changed. I'll be looking to set up map rotation and things of that nature in the next few days.

Please, feel free to join up and try it out!

EDIT: Oh, and if there are any issues feel free to hit me up in PM or on IRC in #fragbu or #bufunite or #beyondunreal. I'll have access to the server while I'm at work so I should be able to take care of stuff.

T2A` · Mar 4, 2008

Neato.

Big-Al · Mar 4, 2008

SlayerDragon said:
Jackal and I went ahead and got a TF2 Server running. It's a 16 slot server located in Chicago, Illinois and hosted by Art of War Central.

Right now it's pretty much stock setup, I have metamod and sourcemod installed so I can do some admin consoley stuff. Respawn timer is instant, but that can be changed. I'll be looking to set up map rotation and things of that nature in the next few days.

Please, feel free to join up and try it out!

EDIT: Oh, and if there are any issues feel free to hit me up in PM or on IRC in #fragbu or #bufunite or #beyondunreal. I'll have access to the server while I'm at work so I should be able to take care of stuff.

i've added it to my favorites

-Jes- · Mar 4, 2008

Could I suggest at least 4 seconds respawn?

Instant = Poo!

Kantham · Mar 4, 2008

4 Second spawn is for pussies.
I'll give it a shot my good SlayerDragon.

SlayerDragon · Mar 4, 2008

-Jes- said:
Could I suggest at least 4 seconds respawn?

Instant = Poo!

It's configurable and takes place immediately. I set it to instant because there were like 4 of us on the server last night. With full load, I'd recommend 4-5 seconds.

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