Really Sick of Robar + AR loadouts

Beats me, but I agree: It's disgusting. I've seen it even on maps like MWH and Peru! It's just plain stupid.

Hopefully (oh jeez, here it comes again) the next version's tweaking will address this and make the point moot.

*cracks his knuckles*
Mutator time, bitch!
The question is: what is the best way to discorage its use?
Make it bulky?
Dissalow its use with a big rifle? (Not preferred- goes against the whole "you can do it IRL...")
Make it suck? (prone only or somethin')

recoil doesnt solve anything.

Just make it so that you can only carry a Primary and a smg or side arm. This is realistic, because units like these are supposed to be extremely fast and mobile, not lugging arounds an arsenal that would make Voltron wince.

Nice idea Yurch, but I have noticed RA players don't tend to us AR & Robar loadouts anyway.

If you ask me (and you probably shouldn't) this needs tweaks to the whole bulk/stamina system. That people willingly carry a Robar and a SMG AND ammo for both says to me that something is wrong with it. The Robar can't weigh enough, the ammo must be too light and cheap.

Above all, there needs to be some sort of penalty for carrying more than one long weapon and switching between them.

hehe... watch the language there striderteen... we INFers don't say that word in public.

I've seen some pretty funny stuff, like one guy carrying:
SIG
FAMAS
M16 - all attachments

and he was running like a mofo too... that's just messed up.

But I don't like the idea of being forced into a loadout, I believe that instead of restricting how many weapons you carry make the penalties of speed and movement steeper so that people who carry all this **** just can't play effectively.

Originally posted by spm1138
Nice idea Yurch, but I have noticed RA players don't tend to us AR & Robar loadouts anyway.

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I see quite a few on EP, and other large maps.

The thing is - will bulk solve anything? A sniper can still crawl under pounds of weapons to a snipe point - no matter how much we penalize it.

Yurch, can't you make it so:
A=Pistols =1
B=Submachine guns =2
C=Assault Rifles =3
D=Sniper rifles =4

Make a limit like adding together anything over 6 or 7 won't work
And also make it so 2 of the same is auto bad

IE:
A+B=3 3<6 OK
D+C=7 7>6 BAD
C+A=4 4>6 OK
C+B+A=6 6=6 BAD

/me is in a math mood tonight

Draw time would keep it down. Who wants multiple weapons when they actually (OMG!!!) have to spend time attaching and remove it from their packs?

I had a hard enough time getting the weapons to work, now you want me to disable some of them.. heh...

Hmm, I use a Sig551 with scope for long and mid-range shots and carry an MP5 with suppressor and Aimpoint for those close encounters, no sidearm... is this to much/unrealistic?

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replace the robar with the steyr scout?

Ok people 2 things:

1) IRL in a unit of this sort....(or any military unit for that matter), you don't have the option to carry "anything you want". You don't get to go into an armory like in the 'Matrix' and take however much you want. You are assigned equiptment appropriate to your role with your unit.

2) Imagine the look on your squad leader's face when you are ordered to gear up and fall in and you come dragging ass into formation late because you are loaded down with one of everything, ammo for all of it and 20 nades. Not only would you look like a friggin' moron, you'd probably be subjected to some disciplinary action and ordered to take a psychiatric evaluation. At the least, you'd deserve a good bitch slapping. Not to mention that if your squad became engaged in a fire fight or had to move quickly to or out of an area, no one would wait for your slow ass while you got tangled up in the straps for your M16 deluxe(ACOG/ M203), your MP5sd, and your Robar while trying not to drop your DE, Kabar, 15 different mags with 4 different kinds of ammo. Oh sh*t!! You'll probably expect to be able to fire any of these weapons accurately while running as fast as you can on top of everything else....assuming you can even move. Come on!! Where is the realisticness in that?