I dont know what causes it, i never saw it, i think certain factors contribute to it's presence. I believe it's a card related thing, since most pp who see it have a similar 3d card.
DM-Imago
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LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
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I think we are talking about the pipe HOM. Right?
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The one that Mr Prophet used for his
thumbnail shot for the menu pop-up.
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I've seen it on both D3D and Open GL now.
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It must be a graphics card issue.
We should take a real poll to see who sees it and
what card they use.
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Here it is with a grenade reflected in the HOM:
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
Oh....there is a small HOM for me in this shot too.
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It is very small and doesn't affect gameplay.
(neither does the pipe HOM for that matter ... )
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It is right under the crosshair in this shot:
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It is very small and doesn't affect gameplay.
(neither does the pipe HOM for that matter ...
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It is right under the crosshair in this shot:
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
One little touch I liked in the map was the mirror effect
on the fire extinguisher box glass.
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Question: Even a small mirror like this would affect
rendering speed, right?
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The reason I ask is because the map runs kind of slow
on my system.
(256mb RAM, P2 400mhz, & 64mb Ge Force 2 MX card)
Though not as slow as DM-Brunel.
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on the fire extinguisher box glass.
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Question: Even a small mirror like this would affect
rendering speed, right?
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The reason I ask is because the map runs kind of slow
on my system.
(256mb RAM, P2 400mhz, & 64mb Ge Force 2 MX card)
Though not as slow as DM-Brunel.
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Everyone i know who has a voodoo 3 card has no problems, and thats what I have. That first HOM should NOT be there, the map has no error on my editor, i've checked. Must be a card issue with fog, you have 'fog' turned on right?
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
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Yes, I tried it both ways.
(typed preferences into the console and changed it)
The shot I submitted was with D3D and with vertex fog on.
OpenGL was very much darker (and doesn't have a fog option)
than D3D but It was still there.
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I know you don't have the problem (not that I ever doubted you
)because your thumbnail shot of it is HOM free. You are probably
right. It must be a card issue Mr Prophet. So far every post I've
seen here that has the same trouble as I has had an nVidia
graphics card.
It would be great if someone who knows much about graphics
rendering and the Unreal engine would explain why the HOM
shows up with one type of card and not another.
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
Hmmmm, could it be simply related to D3D?
And yes, I got the first saw the mirrored fireextingishers in Faceless's map DM-Hyperboreal, it was a cool little detail that has never been repeated i don't think, till i added similar fireextingishers to my own maps. It's not my idea, I use them just like the millions of other mappers who make use of the "uplifted" tile effect, ect ect. Those extingishers were originally part of my much older, DM-TimeCrash, I didn't delete them when i exported that brief room into Imago.
And yes, I got the first saw the mirrored fireextingishers in Faceless's map DM-Hyperboreal, it was a cool little detail that has never been repeated i don't think, till i added similar fireextingishers to my own maps. It's not my idea, I use them just like the millions of other mappers who make use of the "uplifted" tile effect, ect ect. Those extingishers were originally part of my much older, DM-TimeCrash, I didn't delete them when i exported that brief room into Imago.
I guess a way to figure that HOM out is to check out fog in other maps, perhaps other maps share the same error?
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
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I doubt it is D3D releated as many of us (myself included)
have seen the HOM in OpenGL as well.
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I sure would like to know why that HOM error is
so inconsistant.
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This weekend I am going to Baltimore to see some friends.
One of them has a Voodoo 5 card in their 'puter. Perhaps I'll
try your map there to see if the HOM error still shows up.
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Hey Mr Prophet, is this the Energizer bunny thread or what?!
It keeps on going and going and going ...
HOM: What I'd be interested in: What is behind that fog? I'm too lazy to open it in UEd, so - what's the surface behind it set to?
LXIXGTO
"Cruising At The Speed of Iron!"
RE: the fog pipe HOM ...
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Why am I still interested in the HOM? Well, ...
Maybe because I have a map I made
some time back and tried my hardest to get a fog area
to work right but I couldn't. After a while I just chocked
it off to my old graphics card. But I opened the map today and
it still had trouble with the fog even with my new card.
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... I had a thought ... since in UT fog=voumetric lighting
I checked to see if I had it turned off.
(most D3D users turn vol lighting to enhance performance)
Yes, it was turned off. I was able to see some fog now but the
HOM is still there; although it seems farther up than before.
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Here's another screen shot with a grenade in the HOM:
(notice it appears farther up than my last shot of it ...)
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Why am I still interested in the HOM? Well, ...
Maybe because I have a map I made
some time back and tried my hardest to get a fog area
to work right but I couldn't.
After a while I just chockedit off to my old graphics card. But I opened the map today and
it still had trouble with the fog even with my new card.
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... I had a thought ... since in UT fog=voumetric lighting
I checked to see if I had it turned off.
(most D3D users turn vol lighting to enhance performance)
Yes, it was turned off. I was able to see some fog now but the
HOM is still there; although it seems farther up than before.
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Here's another screen shot with a grenade in the HOM:
(notice it appears farther up than my last shot of it ...
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