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Your body and even your excretions can be turned blue by improper exposure to silver. I.E. eating it or inhaling silver dust. It's called Argyria.
Blood turning it red would require alot of blood is usually just pinkish and not huge worries. Not sure about red.
Now glow in the dark would be epic.
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Blood turning it red would require alot of blood is usually just pinkish and not huge worries. Not sure about red.
Now glow in the dark would be epic.
Edit: This comment no longer makes sense. It was part of thread that has been merged with this 1 for some odd reason.
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Ah, there it is, the idiotic notion that Assange is somehow acting with nobility. To bad you are so wrong. Assange is posting this stuff because he has this extreme anti-US sentiment. It has nothing to do with righting any wrongs, perceived, real or otherwise.
Censorship? Again, no person has a legal or moral right or freedom to publish that which they do not have permission to publish. You are just as ****ed in the head as Assange if you subscribe to the bull**** you just said.
Don't worry, if he doesn't post his SS#, bank info as I requested, we'll know who the true censorship nazi is
25,000 civilians died in the bombings of Dresden.
A few reporters are killed in Iraq. United States is now apparently an evil country?
A few reporters are killed in Iraq. United States is now apparently an evil country?
No, I'm declaring that freedom of information is worth fighting for. Even if it is "anti-US" (let me guess which country you live in). I don't care if WikiLeaks publishes a document "proving" that the Holocaust never happened. Let them speak, or when Holocaust Part 2 finds you in its cross-hairs you'll rethink the position that individuals can't spread information without permission from a government.
Your argument is that I agree with someone you dislike therefore I'm wrong? Everyone has the right to publish anything. Who has the right to tell them otherwise?
The person who leaked the documents committed a crime, the person or organisation that published them, i.e. Wikileaks, has not committed a crime. At least do a tiny bit of research before posting.
This.
Also, While two of the men were reporters with cameras, other men in the group WERE carrying weapons, which was detailed in the report by the ground unit that came into the area at the end of the video.
As for Graf1k's claim that this is fighting censorship: get over yourself. How is posting what is essentially private emails of people engaged in diplomatic conversations fighting censorship? How is leaking the name names of informants fighting censorship?
Like I've said before, I believe that it is important for information to get out when need be, and I believe that leaking information to the press has helped keep our society a free one, but there is a difference between uncovering a wrongdoing and undermining attempts at diplomacy and stability by posting things that have no relevance in uncovering anything but that hurt international relations.
~Jason
Perhaps we wouldn't have to worry about hurting international relations if our country wasn't engaging in activities that will ... hurt international relations.
Yes, I live in the US. So what? My issue is that every government has the right to keep secrets from the rest of the world. Yes, at times these secrets are meant to protect someone, such as an ally. The same goes for individual citizens having the right to privacy.
Now, if these secrets are being kept to cover up criminal activity, there are appropriate channels for whisteblowing. Stealing information that has no bearing on criminal activity and posting it on a website such as Wikileaks is not whisleblowing; it is airing out dirty laundry that should never have seen the light of day.
It has nothing to do with whether I personally find Wikileaks or yourself to be "right" or "wrong"; it is about the law. If the media resorts to operating outside the law to push this information, it is either for the reason that the media is ineffective or, those who do this have an agenda that has nothing to do with freedom of information. Seems to me Assange fits in the latter rather than the former.
You think I do not know that the leaker has broken the law? That fact in no way absolves Wikileaks from its responsibility to abide by the law. There do exist legal methods of obtaining information from the State Department. Taking possession of stolen information is not one of them.
Just google pentagon papers. Wikileaks in no way is breaking the U.S. law by releasing the cables. I don't know about other countries but it's probably the same case.
Again, if this was blowing the whistle on illegal activities covered up by making these documents classified, it would relate directly to your Pentagon Papers case. But, this guy is releasing sensitive documents in an effort to embarrass the US and other countries. It isn't about highlighting illegal activities. To top that off, Assange claims that he has in his possession, and will publish, operational information that would be damaging to the US' abilities to protect its vital interests. And that, my friend, is called espionage and means Assange is a criminal if he publishes what he claims to have.
These leakers and those who would publish such data, such as Ellsberg in the PP case, supposedly do so out of some noble gesture to end alleged atrocities. Most of these persons' actions have proven this to be a fallacy; these people are generally taking on the role of vigilante, which makes their actions no better than those they are attempting to damage or otherwise discredit. And generally speaking, these leaks usually cause more problems for peripheral players than the intended targets.
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