What do you think of the Texas Execution?

ugh the death penalty...

economically and politically it makes sense

but how can anyone be the judge of who dies and who lives.... there is no moral justification...




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but how can anyone be the judge of who dies and who lives.... there is no moral justification... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree....who chooses who can play god and who can't....

We've had people here (Canada) who have undoubtedly committed heinous crimes and should have been put to sleep. (ie Paul Bernardo) There was videotaped evidence and he and his wife (Karla Homolka) admitted to kidnapping/raping/torturing/killing two teenage girls and also Karla's younger sister. This should have been death. 100%

We have also recently, due to dna evidence, freed two innocent people who have been in jail for over 10 years for killing children. They would have been unjustly murdered by my government if we had the death penalty. That's scary.

If DNA, videotape etc. evidence proves 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'd love to see the death penalty. It would have to be 100% though, and not be abused if there was even the slightest, minute chance of innocense.


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Too answer the question Stosh, "What do you think of the Texas Execution"

...i don't think any of us would have thought about it at all. In fact, we would have never known if it wasn't for the political sides (primarliy the Democrats) bring it to light for their own personnal agenda. Thats the really sick and sad thing! Not so much that a man was executed or he commited a nasty crime(s). But, that it was brought up as a political weapon against candidate Bush (who is pro cap punishment).

No offense against Texans but this is Texas we are talking about. Texas has executed more people than any other state. It's history vs. popular belief. 9 times out of 10, history is going to win.


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I have to say this, knowing that all Americans here will kick me for it!

Goerge Bush jr, should shame for this execution. This man was sentenced on the base of only one untrustworthy witness.
Several witnesses who could defend him and proof his innocence(in his last crime) were not heard, because of his incompetent lawyer. It is a fact - statistics don't lie - that a lot more blacks than whites are condemned to death, because the can't afford better lawyers. Bush didn't respond to the petitions for clemecy, as he want to be elected for president, Again, shame Mr. Bush! I also doubt that it is right to give one man the power to judge over someone's life, even if he has comitted the worst crimes.

Of course there are times, when I wish there were a death penalty(I live in Germany):
1.)Rape of children. We had several cases, in which known rapers werefreed and instantly raped a new victim
2.)Killing policemen: Happened twice in the last 14 days in Germany
3.)A few more...

But no death penalty for every murder. The state should provide competent lawyers to give equal chances to all criminals.
Students proofed that at least 20 people on death row are/were innocent and could be freed if all proof and victims were considered.


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If Bush would have bent over and granted a stay of execution, people would have tagged him as weak and not vote for him. I don't vote, probably never will because of this political BS, but if I did...Bush would get my vote just for holding his ground (right or wrong, it showed character).

Check this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_802000/802425.stm

Then look at the "Verdict Doubts" near the bottom:

Verdict doubts
Only one of six witnesses has identified Graham as the killer
Gun found on Graham could not have fired the fatal bullet
Four witnesses say Graham was elsewhere when the crime took place

I think Bush let the execution go through to save political face. Thankfully capital punishment was abolished in 1966 in the UK. Anyway, the UK justice system is way too inaccurate for something like that.



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I think the burden of proof required for capital punishment should be greater than that required for conviction. Also, capital punishment should not be used in cases where the accused could reasonably be reformed. There are many cases when I think that capital punishment is not only justified, but a must. There are a lot of psychopaths out there who kill with no remourse whatsoever. Putting them in prison just meens that they will pray on the other prisoners as well, and presents the possibility that they could escape.

Dr. Stupid

By the way, I also think that attempted murder should carry the same penalties as murder. And any form of torture/dismemberment should be a capitol offense.

Dr. Stupid

Oh boy....very touchy subject...without having a few things happen..which are

1: having to type all my thoughts cause i dont have the time

2: have a select few get into a long drawn out discussion with me

3: having people decide im and a**hole because of my thoughts....not many but it always happens

im just gonna say this...

The world is full of people ....that for some reason or other...decide..."HEY..I FEEL LIKE PULLING OUT A GUN AND BLOWING SOMEONES HEAD OFF...JUST FOR KICKS!"

NOW, sick in the head or not...these people should be removed from the free world...but where should we put them? jail..oh yeah...so they and workout..get an education...write books and give speeches( in some cases ) oh yeah...and we are gonna pay for it too..

everyone has a right to their way of thinking on this...the only reason everyone was talking about this is due to the fact that texas has an execution pretty much once a week..and that Bush is running for president...other than that no one would hear about it. now i know this may stir up some s**t but here in philly...we have a convicted and admitted cop killer that shoulda died ohhhh 15 or so years ago...but because the legal system is the way it is...he gets to appeal over and over and over so that the taxpayers are paying for him to sit in jail and write a book...and even give a commencement speech at a college in ohio. WTF is that! kill him... yes i think if you commit and are convicted of murder, attempted murder,rape or any offense that involves a child you..you should die...plain and simple. what...they are sick in the head?...they need help? BU*LS*IT! KILL THEM! ok im done..typed more than i really wanted too...

oh yeah last thing...you you know who i was talking about above, i ask not to debate the issue here... too many people have too many things to say and no offense...most who do really are making their decision based on the media,movie stars and rock bands think..at least most people do

end of rant


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[This message has been edited by FrigginAnT (edited 06-24-2000).]