BS. Team up with whoever plays the boomer, and perform the hang and bait. Works every time.
Smoker Hangs the player from up high, and boomer coats the poor sap in vomitus goodness.
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BS. Team up with whoever plays the boomer, and perform the hang and bait. Works every time.
Smoker Hangs the player from up high, and boomer coats the poor sap in vomitus goodness.
Right on the smoker is necessary for a good ambush, he's the only one who can easily separate the team.
1. Same here, and to their peril usually. Hunter claw damage is pretty decent. If you're close to a few survivors in the red, just claw and you'll probably incap them before they know what hit them. Works great from behind and people melee'ing in a different direction too.
2. Catch someone as they run in front of an obstacle for real quick damage or pull them from high places so they take fall damage. As said already - team with a Boomer.
3. Good replies on this one already.
4. It can be tough to gauge bile distance. I also have a hard time with the delay between button pressing and spewage.
Another misleading part of being infected is your "nightvision" ability. It usually makes you think the survivors can see you equally as well and leads you to do stupid things that otherwise a little bit of patience would have paid off.
As much as I bitch about the smoker, I think I was fairly effective with it last night in a few different rounds. You really have to keep in mind its strengths and weaknesses and wait for the opportune moment to strike. The key is finding a nice place from which to ambush and then waiting for the right moment.
The main reason we complain about the Infected so much is the lack of teamwork. Given, some of them are just plain useless in certain situations, but with enough planning and teamwork you can actually do a fairly good job if you wait for the right moment.
The main reason we complain about the Infected so much is the lack of teamwork. Given, some of them are just plain useless in certain situations, but with enough planning and teamwork you can actually do a fairly good job if you wait for the right moment.
Yeah. I think what makes the smoker weak is how slow he pull the players away before he start delivering the damages. Then another survivor only need one melee on his teammate to break it. But I've seen some players play effectively with it the other day. Like it is perfect to use when someone it trying to revive.
EDIT: I think the best way to use a smoker/hunter versus a decent 4-man survivor team is to wait for the 3 other players to go down a edge where the survivors can't go back. Especially with a smoker since he can hide him. That happened a few times to me, and few maps have that opportunity.
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I think I mentioned this in the strategy thread that smokers use level design to their advantage. Using him pull survivors off the awning on No Mercy part 3 is a perfect example of this. You drag the survivor thats lagging behind of the ledge bringing some nasty fall damage and it separates them from the group by a suprising amount and in the middle of the hoard this usually can finish the person off, especially if a boomer is waiting throw up on the incapped survivor and the person who came to rescue him.
The smoker isn't about dealing damage at all. I'd be willing to wager that the only reason he deals damage in the first place is to prevent a potential stalemate.
The times I've seen a smoker completely turn the tides he didn't deal a single point of damage, and often only grabbed the victim for less than a second.
Whoo... just played L4D for the first time and it's a blast. Took me 4 times to beat No Mercy's finale because I kept getting knocked off the roof by the tanks. Can't wait to play online!
Just got a blast on the final of bloodharvest on advanced with SleepyHead and some dude. We almost all made it to the APC when the tank got inside of it and killed everyone. Then the intro still played so you could see the tank move in the APC, but then he got out of it.
I also got a "In memory of" on the 3rd attempt. The smoker pulled me in the barn as my whole team got in the APC, great!
I also got a "In memory of" on the 3rd attempt. The smoker pulled me in the barn as my whole team got in the APC, great!
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I had an AWESOME "Smoker moment" today. We were doing pretty decent. We had the survivors down to just Louis. He ran inside the pawn shop. We were about to lose.... and I got into the perfect position to grab him (from quite a distance) right out of that building and pulled him into the remaining horde. We win.
VERY satisfying. hehehehe
VERY satisfying. hehehehe
You can also press F to get a quick flash of what it's like without zombie vision. Although, I'm not sure if that's a feature or a bug.
Red Mist achievement is finally mine! Its not hard to get, sure, but its always nice to get an achievement!
I've been working on the No Friendly Fire one but too no avail. The end stats said I had 0 friendly fire incidents but I didn't get it.
I read the previous posts documenting the problems getting it. I'm wondering what I did wrong. Does the lingering smoker smoke do damage?
I've been working on the No Friendly Fire one but too no avail. The end stats said I had 0 friendly fire incidents but I didn't get it.
I read the previous posts documenting the problems getting it. I'm wondering what I did wrong. Does the lingering smoker smoke do damage?
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I just laugh my ass off tonight. We were probably playing the 3rd level of the Dead Airport (Campaign). A tank showed up in the parking lot, I was standing the other way when 3 of my teammates got pwned by the car thrown by the tank as they were standing on the other side of the car to avoid it.
They all went serious "I call BS" while I was laughing my ass off. I soooo wished I had this recorded and put on youtube.
EDIT: You guys like my new home-made sig?
They all went serious "I call BS" while I was laughing my ass off. I soooo wished I had this recorded and put on youtube.
EDIT: You guys like my new home-made sig?
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Heh yeah, that's pretty good Kantham. I always thought it was funny how they would go "Nooooooooo" over dead teammates, and then when you loot their dead bodies, your character will be like "OH YEA WEAPONS! PILLS! MEDKIT! AWESOME!" 
By the way, it looks like we'll have some DLC from Valve soon. It will be free on PC, but cost MS-points or whatever on the Xbawks360. Valve said it would be pretty soon, so I guess we should expect it to be sometime between 2 months and 5 years.
By the way, it looks like we'll have some DLC from Valve soon. It will be free on PC, but cost MS-points or whatever on the Xbawks360. Valve said it would be pretty soon, so I guess we should expect it to be sometime between 2 months and 5 years.
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Thats what I told everyone on TS last night, except I worded it a minimum of 2 years
Was he already in the saferoom? If he was did this count as Lamb 2 Slaughter? I've always wondered if you can drag them out or if they have to voluntarily leave before you incap them.
Ugh, that's got to suck.
Smoker smoke does no damage so no... I don't know if shooting a Boomer & you or a bot getting hit by the explosion/bile would count though.
Apart from that, assuming you weren't just unlucky & that the achievement failed to register even though you did it, you or one of the bots went near enough to some fire to take damage. Unless you definately didn't use/trigger anything explosive [the damage radius of the Green Oxygen & White Gas cylinders is larger than you might think]
Man I bought this thinking it was going to rock, and it did, but only for about a day It's too arcade-like, no strategy involved, blow away everything in sight.
When are they gonna make a goddamn zombie game where it's SERIOUS ****. Dead Rising sucked too, it felt like a cartoon. I want a zombie survival horror game that plays like MGS3.
It's too arcade-like, no strategy involved, blow away everything in sight.When are they gonna make a goddamn zombie game where it's SERIOUS ****. Dead Rising sucked too, it felt like a cartoon. I want a zombie survival horror game that plays like MGS3.
Man I bought this thinking it was going to rock, and it did, but only for about a day
When are they gonna make a goddamn zombie game where it's SERIOUS ****. Dead Rising sucked too, it felt like a cartoon. I want a zombie survival horror game that plays like MGS3.
No strategy? Are you sure you played the same game?