DEV Release: INF DecalStay

Khutan · Jan 15, 2002

IMPORTANT
This is a Development version (DEV), this means that it is work in progress, it may or may not be reliable/fully featured/worth the 3 seconds it takes to download it. I plan to update this even for minor changes, so if you really can't wait for a proper release (on the main site), then you can try out this version - but don't expect it to be bug-free or anywhere near complete, it wouldn't be a Dev-version if it was . This version will literally be the latest build that I have (i.e. very little testing), and there will be little/no documentation (you can always ask though). You have been warned

This is: INF DecalStay v3.94-DEV

Last Update: 18th Jan 2002

NOTES:
The default setup is for everything permanent for a match (but with "drop if low Frame rate"), save 200 decals/shells and 10 mags for cross-match. There is no Menu ATM, and setup via .ini is definately not user-friendly, so if you really want to alter something, tell me what, and I'll tell you what to change

The Cross-Match data and most of the settings are stored in Entry.ini, the basic enable/disable, CrossMatch amount setup is in K_INF_DecalStay.ini

This thread has a pretty up to date feature list (actually that was v3.93, lol - I got distracted again :))

To Do (in order):
1. Fix the slow saving to disk (you won't notice until your save-file is huge

)
2. Need to change the chunk size for maps etc back to something that's reasonable

(I set it small ages ago, for testing purposes, now my file is ~3MB, and I need it for disk-saving speed testing

)
3. Customisable max num limit for each decal/shell/mag
4. Menu code (configuration for all the detected decals etc)

History:
v3.94 * Fixed a bug with the ResetEveryRound code, where it didn't remove shells/mags
v3.94 * Altered ini setup, moved some options from Infiltration.ini to K_INF_DecalStay.ini
v3.01-DEV -> v3.93-DEV * A LOT of stuff, including Cross-Match decal/shell/mag saving, shell casings/mags stay, works with any decal (try RealImpact) alternate decal detection modes, always show bullet holes, dropIfLowFPS settings for shells/mags.....yada yada

v3.0 * Last proper release

shadowkil · Jan 17, 2002

dev releases

Just curious, what are you looking for when posting these dev releases? Are you interested in having people beta test and give feedback, perhaps help with the debugging/coding, or just being a nice guy and giving us an early peek at the new features? =)

Khutan · Jan 17, 2002

hehe, well, feedback and bug testing would be nice

(and I should add a list of "Known Bugs") But the main reason I put these up, is that everything is taking so long - people are waiting for me to do things...but I'm a bit of a perfectionist and won't do a proper release unless it's something major/has lots of new stuff etc. This way, if someone is waiting for something specific (such as the tie-code in RTS), or they don't mind a few small bugs and they'd rather just try it now (AnyMapDOM), then they can try the Dev version

Or there is the situation DecalStay is in, even though it's probably the most technically accomplished INF-related code I have written (and the largest piece of code by far), I am fully expecting the entire X-Match side of it to be permanently broken by 2.87's anti-cheat code....which is a shame, because I think it adds a lot to the atmosphere

That's also the reason other mutators have been getting priority over it....

shadowkil · Jan 17, 2002

how to reset?

how do i set when decals are cleaned up? i.e. if i want it end of round, or to last throughout a single match, or back to permanent (the default?) will it clean up based on frame rate by default?

edit: I definitely like the fact that a decal is placed for each shot (i.e. robar at 500m [or is it yards?] on the shooting range), but after several rounds, performance drops quite a bit. FYI I'm running on a dual Athlon MP 1.2 system with 512 megs of pc2100 registered ddr with a geforce 3, win2k sp2. Sometime when I'm less lazy I'll grab the nvidia dri patch for xfree 4 and see how it runs in linux =) Anyhow, I do like the effect it gives - makes the level look a little less "clean" and more like a combat zone.

Khutan · Jan 17, 2002

Ah, crap

I have the config set to be loaded from Iniltration.ini, but there are no defaults there

Gimme half an hour or so, and I'll fix it (I'll move all the static configs back to a K_INF_DecalStay.ini).

Btw, it won't remove stuff if your frame rate drops by default, you can set it to though

At the moment, there is a general option for shells, one for mags, and an individual one for each type of decal...but the shells and mags settings have no defaults either

lol. You can change the decals settings right now though (yay, something I didn't forget about).

Open up Entry.ini, and search for the word "settings", until you get the section "[K_INF_DecalStay_DecalSettings0]", which contains the settings for the first 20 decals that have been used. In this section, if it has the same index, then it refers to the same decal

So, for example:

Code:

LT[0]=0
DS[0]=0.190000
F[0]=112
D[0]=
CN[0]=Botpack.Pock

These are the settings for the "Pock" decal. The names are so cryptic because it saves space

Anyway:

CN[] = ClassName, for example Botpack.Pock or INFRealImpact.INFPock etc, this is how you know which decal this index is for..
D[] = Description, it's not used yet, it's intended to be used with the menu code.
LT[] = LifeTime, the lifetime, in seconds, that this decal will last for.
DS[] = DrawScale, the size the decal will be drawn at, you aren't really meant to be changing this (it's for internal use) but you can if you want to. You can make things look very gory with this

F[] = Flags, this is the complicated one, it's one number that represents a few settings, here they are:

FLAG_SaveXMatch=16; //Whether or not this decal will be carried though to the next match
FLAG_EnableReplace=32; //Set to false to *completely* ignore this type of decal, ie do not make it stay, or anything
FLAG_AlignVertical=64; //used for bullet holes etc, to align them vertically (!)
FLAG_DropIfLowFPS=128; //this is the one you want
MASK_MultiDecalLevel=15; //Lower 4 bits = MultiDecalLevel

So, what you do is, add together the numbers of the things you want (don't alter the MultiDecalLevel bit though), and then set F[x]=That Number. So, for example, 112 (the default setting for Pock) is AlignVertical, EnableReplace, and SaveXMatch. If you wanted these to be removed if your frame rate drops, then set it to 240 (112 + 128). Basically, just add the value if you want it to be true, and remove it if you want it to be false (this will preserve the other settings).

Now you know why I said .ini setup isn't user-friendly

shadowkil · Jan 17, 2002

config documentation

Thanks a bunch, Khutan. It actually makes quite a bit of sense to me (I've done a little coding in perl and C). Of course, I am lazy (aren't all perl hackers?), so of course I look forward to v4.0 with GUI setup

edit: what about mags and casings? didn't see the flags array there (e.g. "F[0]=112")

On a mostly unrelated note - I've a desire to really get into the coding (I'm a sysadmin, getting somewhat bored with that and the head of engineering at my company says I can switch to his department if I show enough proficiency). Would you suggest playing with uscript, or would that probably be more of a waste of time right now (i.e. would I be better off sticking with C/C++ for this purpose). I've heard uscript is quite a bit like C++, and so it might be useful as a learning tool simply because it may be more likely to keep my interest and give me goals that are a bit more fun

Of course I could just get off my lazy duff, hit the books, and then go hit sourceforge and look for something neat hehe.

shad

Khutan · Jan 17, 2002

I'm doing it right now, I'm setting it so that all decals/mags/shells default to infinite life, DropIfLowFPS, and saveXMatch, so when I post it, you won't have to set them all

Mags and casings have a class-level setup for bDropIfLowFPS and lifetime (ie not for individual types of shell etc, it seemed a bit over the top, even for me

) They are (when I post it) in K_INF_DecalStay.ini, as:

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_INFShellCase]
Lifetime=0
bDropIfLowFPS=True

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_EmptyClip]
Lifetime=0
bDropIfLowFPS=True

There is also a section (the one I forgot to setup defaults for):

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_EntrySpawner]
bResetEveryRound=False
bEnableShellStay=True //includes mags
bCrossMatchDecals=True
bCrossMatchShells=True //includes mags
bAlternateDetection=True //when true, it checks every tick, and gets things spawned by mutators (such as RealImpact), when false it uses a notify, but this doesn't pickup the decals used in mutators such as RealImpact (nothing I can do about it).

Just in case you are wondering why the setup is like this, it's because I use one type of decal, and assign the features to it, this means that it works for *any* decal, similarly for shells and mags (but only for INF shells/mags).
I just spotted another bug too, my EveryRound resetting code doesn't remove shells

BaH!

Anyway, yeah, UScript is quite similar to C++, and I think it's quite a good language to learn as it does keep you interested, and you can achieve fun results quickly. You'd probably need to do some serious stuff in C++ to get yourself transfered though

So, maybe spend a few weeks doing UScript, and then switch over to C++, then, if that starts to get on your nerves, you can go back to UScript for a bit to keep your spirits up

(UScript skills should still be useful for quite a while too, with UT2 etc coming out soon).

btw, you edit your posts as much as I do, lol

EDIT: All programmers are lazy!

EDIT2: If you're wondering why it takes me so long to reply, read my avatar text - that's what I mean

Khutan · Jan 18, 2002

Updated v3.93 -> v3.94

Btw, check out FlagStaff, play a game of cluedo........It was Khutan, in the stairwell, with the M16

shadowkil · Jan 22, 2002

possible crashing with network play?

i was hosting a lan game last night with my roommate, and he was unable to join until i disabled the mutator - i'll look at this a bit more in depth today, but i think ut was actually crashing when he tried to join.

performance - it still seems to get a wee bit kludgy at times, but it's much better than before.

all in all, i'm having great fun with it, can't wait for 4.0 =)

Khutan · Jan 23, 2002

Ah, yes, it might have problems if it is run on a server (it's completely untested

), I *think* it might have something to do with using the Entry level for storing stuff (the map that's always loaded in the background), as I heard that you can't access Entry on a client from the server, and it may be trying to do that or something, I dunno though, that may not even be true (I've never tried it). I'll have to add it to my huge list of things to do/look at, thanks for telling me

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 24, 2002

Khutan, can you please tell me how to make the decals, shell casings and mags reset for every round?

Khutan · Jan 24, 2002

In K_INF_DecalStay.ini, set:

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_EntrySpawner]
bResetEveryRound=True

and that should do the trick

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 24, 2002

To my astonishment when I started up Inf, the shell casings from my previous bot match was still there!! Your mod works a little to well me thinks

Anyhow when I edit K_INF_DecalStay.ini and did what you told me to do, the shell casings, decals and mags were still there!

Anything else I could try?

Khutan · Jan 24, 2002

To my astonishment when I started up Inf, the shell casings from my previous bot match was still there!! Your mod works a little to well me thinks

hehe, when I say permanent, I mean it

I haven't played on an un-battle-scarred map for about 3 months, I love it

Anyhow when I edit K_INF_DecalStay.ini and did what you told me to do, the shell casings, decals and mags were still there!

Anything else I could try?

You just need to play a round, things are removed when a round >ends< (incidentally, they won't reset for flag captures etc, I haven't put that in yet). If you are having problems with your frame rate, then I suggest you just turn up the "Min desired Framerate" setting in the VID menu

If the ResetEveryRound option still doesn't work properly, (ie clear at the >end< of a round), then did you make any other changes? maybe you should send me your Entry.ini and K_INF_DecalStay.ini. It should be working

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 25, 2002

Well I was finally able to get the stuff to disappear, I think that I might have spelt "True" wrong

Anyway when it did work, after 1 to 2 min Infiltration just froze!
At first I thought it might have been my computer overheating, so I switched of the computer for 2 hours, watched some tv then started my system again, and straight to Infiltration, again same deal 1 to 2min Inf froze.

So I enabled for all the decals and casings to stay (default) and everything is ok!

There might be a bug when you enable "reset every round".

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 25, 2002

Crap forgot the error!
Here it is:

Khutan · Jan 26, 2002

I think that I might have spelt "True" wrong

rofl

There might be a bug when you enable "reset every round".

Hmmm

, crash=not good, thanks for telling me, I'll take a look at it first thing tomorrow

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 27, 2002

In offline mode this does not happen but when you go online, when that clip thing from the grenade hits the ground, a whole bunch of them appear!!

Khutan · Jan 27, 2002

Holy crap!! :hmm:

Hmmm, on first instinct, I think it might be the "alternate detection" code I put in, so, try changing to (in K_INF_DecalStay.ini):

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_EntrySpawner]
bAlternateDetection=False

that's f-a-l-s-e :lol:

j/k

Then again, thinking a little more, and looking at the grenade-spoon (that's what it's called) code again, I realise that there's server->client stuff in there (for some reason it's handled differently to pins/clips/shells) so it may be that the server is re-creating it when it is replaced (and destroyed - gah!)....I think I've thought of a workaround for it, if it is that

btw, I may have also thought of a way of getting V4 to work in 2.87, keep your fingers crossed

Saving Private Raptor · Jan 28, 2002

Originally posted by Khutan
Holy crap!! Hmmm, on first instinct, I think it might be the "alternate detection" code I put in, so, try changing to (in K_INF_DecalStay.ini):

Did that and it fixed that problem, but now I dont get any grenade blast marks!!

that's f-a-l-s-e j/k

hmmmmm

, your never gona forget that are you

This is the only thing I have changed in the K_INF_DecalStay file:

[K_INF_DecalStay.K_INF_DecalStay_EntrySpawner]
bResetEveryRound=False
bEnableShellStay=True
bCrossMatchDecals=False
bCrossMatchShells=False
bAlternateDetection=True

I really like how everything stays until the match is won!! Great mod Khutan! Really hope you can get this to work with 2.87!

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