Bot communications don't contain location info?

JCD · 5th Jun 2011, 04:31 AM

Remember in UT99 (and 2K4? I can't remember) when bots sent messages like "enemy flag carrier here" and underneath the message would be their location?

Am I blind or is there no option in UT3 for bot messages to show the location they're coming from?

I know sometimes they specify "near (or in) red base" and what have you, but I've heard a few bots just say "enemy flag carrier here" with no location at all, which is completely useless.

Raynor.Z · 5th Jun 2011, 06:31 AM

It's a wild guess, but that could be because of absence of zones. At least in first UT location was reported based on the map zone you (or bot) were in.

GreatEmerald · 5th Jun 2011, 11:06 AM

Yea, bots in UT3 say if it's near a base or how high in the midfield. I never heard them say just that the carrier is there. However, the zone reporting is useless anyway because when they say anything about the carrier, you can track him on the minimap.

WHIPperSNAPper · 6th Jun 2011, 02:40 PM

UT3 doesn't have location ID tags. I don't know if that was intentional game design or something to do with the engine. One thing you cannot do is keybind team communication to keys like you could in earlier games. "Enemy flag carrier is here (location)" "Cover me." "Defend the base." Etc.

One reason they may not have allowed keybinds for communication is that they wouldn't work well on console controls (as opposed to a keyboard), which provides just one more egregious example of how consolization was detrimental to the PC aspect of the game.

JCD · 7th Jun 2011, 04:06 AM

I can't get the map to show up for some reason. No matter what I do.. I've tried binding "show map" to many different keys, enabling and disabling both "show map" and zoomed minimap in the settings and I can not view the map. No idea. I get a map in Warfare mode but not in CTF.

GreatEmerald · 8th Jun 2011, 02:08 AM

What about VCTF?

MrMaddog · 8th Jun 2011, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHIPperSNAPper

One reason they may not have allowed keybinds for communication is that they wouldn't work well on console controls (as opposed to a keyboard), which provides just one more egregious example of how consolization was detrimental to the PC aspect of the game.

Very good point... But then on a console players can just use headsets to tell their teammates where they are anyway.

(PC's have to use seperate stuff like Ventrilo)

WHIPperSNAPper · 8th Jun 2011, 02:32 PM

As far as I know, at least UT 2004 (and I think UT3) had built-in voice comm--no need for Vent or Teamspeak. Console gamers don't enjoy any advantages over the PC gamers.

JCD · 9th Jun 2011, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatEmerald

What about VCTF?

VCTF works as well, but not CTF. Puzzling.

GreatEmerald · 9th Jun 2011, 03:46 PM

I bet that's because they never bothered to include maps in non-vehicle gametypes... Which could be a problem indeed.

5th Jun 2011, 04:31 AM	#1
JCD Registered User Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2008 Posts: 13	Bot communications don't contain location info? Remember in UT99 (and 2K4? I can't remember) when bots sent messages like "enemy flag carrier here" and underneath the message would be their location? Am I blind or is there no option in UT3 for bot messages to show the location they're coming from? I know sometimes they specify "near (or in) red base" and what have you, but I've heard a few bots just say "enemy flag carrier here" with no location at all, which is completely useless.

5th Jun 2011, 06:31 AM	#2
Raynor.Z Ad Nocendum Potentes Sumus Join Date: Feb. 1st, 2006 Posts: 1,362	It's a wild guess, but that could be because of absence of zones. At least in first UT location was reported based on the map zone you (or bot) were in. __________________ Unreal Tournament Tweak Guide \| Unreal Tournament Social Group \| Albums For those willing to build a mountain of bodies and climb to the top. In environments that stun. Against A.I. that kills. For those willing to stake their lives in the pursuit of victory... we salute you.

5th Jun 2011, 11:06 AM	#3
GreatEmerald Khnumhotep Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2008 Location: Lithuania Posts: 4,017	Yea, bots in UT3 say if it's near a base or how high in the midfield. I never heard them say just that the carrier is there. However, the zone reporting is useless anyway because when they say anything about the carrier, you can track him on the minimap. __________________ GreatEmerald's Domain (my website)

6th Jun 2011, 02:40 PM	#4
WHIPperSNAPper Registered User Join Date: Mar. 22nd, 2003 Posts: 441	UT3 doesn't have location ID tags. I don't know if that was intentional game design or something to do with the engine. One thing you cannot do is keybind team communication to keys like you could in earlier games. "Enemy flag carrier is here (location)" "Cover me." "Defend the base." Etc. One reason they may not have allowed keybinds for communication is that they wouldn't work well on console controls (as opposed to a keyboard), which provides just one more egregious example of how consolization was detrimental to the PC aspect of the game. __________________

8th Jun 2011, 02:08 AM	#6
GreatEmerald Khnumhotep Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2008 Location: Lithuania Posts: 4,017	What about VCTF? __________________ GreatEmerald's Domain (my website)

7th Jun 2011, 04:06 AM	#5
JCD Registered User Join Date: Mar. 11th, 2008 Posts: 13	I can't get the map to show up for some reason. No matter what I do.. I've tried binding "show map" to many different keys, enabling and disabling both "show map" and zoomed minimap in the settings and I can not view the map. No idea. I get a map in Warfare mode but not in CTF.

8th Jun 2011, 02:32 PM	#8
WHIPperSNAPper Registered User Join Date: Mar. 22nd, 2003 Posts: 441	As far as I know, at least UT 2004 (and I think UT3) had built-in voice comm--no need for Vent or Teamspeak. Console gamers don't enjoy any advantages over the PC gamers. __________________

9th Jun 2011, 03:46 PM	#10
GreatEmerald Khnumhotep Join Date: Jan. 20th, 2008 Location: Lithuania Posts: 4,017	I bet that's because they never bothered to include maps in non-vehicle gametypes... Which could be a problem indeed. __________________ GreatEmerald's Domain (my website)

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