UE1 - UT Exporting a model

Rajada · 28th Apr 2010, 11:30 AM

I've tried Wotgreal and I've tried UTPT, but no matter what I do, the mesh (.3D) file that I export always imports as translucent even though it is not translucent in its original format. Is this something that can be overridden or fixed or am I toast?

Rajada · 29th Apr 2010, 03:11 PM

So... even some spam replies would make me feel a little less ignored. :P

meowcat · 29th Apr 2010, 08:52 PM

Do you mean it imports back into UEd/UT as translucent? If so, you may want to use/test the tool UnrealFX by jmuh to "flag" the triangles to be normal again. I uploaded the file here.

Rajada · 29th Apr 2010, 09:38 PM

Yes, that's exactly what i meant! Sorry if I wasn't so clear, I was confused at the time. :P Thanks, I'll take a look at the program, sounds like a neat thing to have either way.

BUT, now UnrealFX refuses to open it, giving me the generic 'unexpected end of file' error. ><

If I export as 3ds and use 3ds2unr i get the mesh opened in UnrealFX just fine, but i have no idea how to export 'each animation as a separate file' (NOT each frame as a separate file as UTPT allows me to do) and therefore the animations get corrupted (I can still see the animations assuming I change the uc file to import them, but the vertexes jumble around making jagged polygons rather than the model). Oh, I'm using UMake to compile my project directory.

If I just replace the _a.3d (the animations file) with the one from my .3d export (the one that won't open) it has the same effect but also affects the one non-animated frame that works. (This is a character mesh BTW from basically on old Unreal engine game)

Any ideas?

By the way, thanks for responding.

War_Master · 30th Apr 2010, 01:40 AM

Use Umodel instead. UTPT and WotGreal always mess up the meshes from the .3d format and it was never fixed on neither one.

Theres a Link for UModel on this thread...

2nd post

Rajada · 30th Apr 2010, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by War_Master

Use Umodel instead. UTPT and WotGreal always mess up the meshes from the .3d format and it was never fixed on neither one.

Theres a Link for UModel on this thread...

2nd post

Okay, something about these 'command prompt' applications never run right on my PC, how the heck do I use it? I can drag a .u file on it but I can't give any of the export commands because I can't type anything, not that he tells you how to export it as .3d anyway.

So confusing.

Rajada · 2nd May 2010, 09:42 PM

Okay, great, UModel works... it still gives me the same 'inside out' effect on the mesh, but that is easily fixed by UnrealFX (because it will actually open now). However it deleted or hid the pawn's weapon triangle... and I cannot see it in UnrealFX (in wireframe mode it is no longer there and I can't see it in UModel's preview) so I assume its gone. which is bad because I'm pretty sure you need a weapon triangle for a pawn to work (to display a weapon at least). Any ideas on how to fix that? Does UModel just not export the weapon triangle?

EDIT: I counted (in UnrealFX), the poly count on the mesh exported with UModel is one short. Why doesn't it want to export that triangle and is there any way to make it export it?

meowcat · 3rd May 2010, 12:09 AM

I have sneaking suspicion that the weapon triangle is a "lossy" component that gets removed from the model upon import (and the data from it is used to create a weapon coordinate for the model). If that is the case you may be out of luck

Rajada · 3rd May 2010, 12:36 AM

Yes, possibly, but the other exporters did not remove it. There has to be something I can do. Probably, a stupid question, but can one define a weapon coordinate manually?

28th Apr 2010, 11:30 AM	#1
Rajada Registered User Join Date: Jan. 21st, 2008 Posts: 196	Exporting a model I've tried Wotgreal and I've tried UTPT, but no matter what I do, the mesh (.3D) file that I export always imports as translucent even though it is not translucent in its original format. Is this something that can be overridden or fixed or am I toast? __________________ How to play NAB

29th Apr 2010, 03:11 PM	#2
Rajada Registered User Join Date: Jan. 21st, 2008 Posts: 196	So... even some spam replies would make me feel a little less ignored. :P __________________ How to play NAB

29th Apr 2010, 08:52 PM	#3
meowcat nothing new under the sun Join Date: Jun. 7th, 2001 Posts: 713	Do you mean it imports back into UEd/UT as translucent? If so, you may want to use/test the tool UnrealFX by jmuh to "flag" the triangles to be normal again. I uploaded the file here. __________________ "What do you mean it doesn't exist clientside?" Got a Pawn problem? Ask me about: Leaning, Prone, Limiting Strafing, Mantling, Dashing, Crouch Jumping, Using Cover, Parkour Moves My Generic Mods for UT2K4: Yet Another Real-life Mod: Class-based play, generic realistic weapons, unoriginal gameplay, w/ cheap COD4 knockoff TD Vehicles v124: HMMWV, MI4Hound, Black Hawk & AH-6 Helicopters, Motorcycle, IFAV Jeep, Abrams Tank * The only "truth" is what you can get away with * Last edited by meowcat; 29th Apr 2010 at 08:57 PM.

29th Apr 2010, 09:38 PM	#4
Rajada Registered User Join Date: Jan. 21st, 2008 Posts: 196	Yes, that's exactly what i meant! Sorry if I wasn't so clear, I was confused at the time. :P Thanks, I'll take a look at the program, sounds like a neat thing to have either way. BUT, now UnrealFX refuses to open it, giving me the generic 'unexpected end of file' error. >< If I export as 3ds and use 3ds2unr i get the mesh opened in UnrealFX just fine, but i have no idea how to export 'each animation as a separate file' (NOT each frame as a separate file as UTPT allows me to do) and therefore the animations get corrupted (I can still see the animations assuming I change the uc file to import them, but the vertexes jumble around making jagged polygons rather than the model). Oh, I'm using UMake to compile my project directory. If I just replace the _a.3d (the animations file) with the one from my .3d export (the one that won't open) it has the same effect but also affects the one non-animated frame that works. (This is a character mesh BTW from basically on old Unreal engine game) Any ideas? By the way, thanks for responding. __________________ How to play NAB Last edited by Rajada; 30th Apr 2010 at 01:30 AM.

2nd May 2010, 09:42 PM	#7
Rajada Registered User Join Date: Jan. 21st, 2008 Posts: 196	Okay, great, UModel works... it still gives me the same 'inside out' effect on the mesh, but that is easily fixed by UnrealFX (because it will actually open now). However it deleted or hid the pawn's weapon triangle... and I cannot see it in UnrealFX (in wireframe mode it is no longer there and I can't see it in UModel's preview) so I assume its gone. which is bad because I'm pretty sure you need a weapon triangle for a pawn to work (to display a weapon at least). Any ideas on how to fix that? Does UModel just not export the weapon triangle? EDIT: I counted (in UnrealFX), the poly count on the mesh exported with UModel is one short. Why doesn't it want to export that triangle and is there any way to make it export it? __________________ How to play NAB Last edited by Rajada; 2nd May 2010 at 11:51 PM.

30th Apr 2010, 01:40 AM	#5
War_Master Registered User Join Date: May. 27th, 2005 Posts: 669	Use Umodel instead. UTPT and WotGreal always mess up the meshes from the .3d format and it was never fixed on neither one. Theres a Link for UModel on this thread... 2nd post

3rd May 2010, 12:09 AM	#8
meowcat nothing new under the sun Join Date: Jun. 7th, 2001 Posts: 713	I have sneaking suspicion that the weapon triangle is a "lossy" component that gets removed from the model upon import (and the data from it is used to create a weapon coordinate for the model). If that is the case you may be out of luck __________________ "What do you mean it doesn't exist clientside?" Got a Pawn problem? Ask me about: Leaning, Prone, Limiting Strafing, Mantling, Dashing, Crouch Jumping, Using Cover, Parkour Moves My Generic Mods for UT2K4: Yet Another Real-life Mod: Class-based play, generic realistic weapons, unoriginal gameplay, w/ cheap COD4 knockoff TD Vehicles v124: HMMWV, MI4Hound, Black Hawk & AH-6 Helicopters, Motorcycle, IFAV Jeep, Abrams Tank * The only "truth" is what you can get away with *

3rd May 2010, 12:36 AM	#9
Rajada Registered User Join Date: Jan. 21st, 2008 Posts: 196	Yes, possibly, but the other exporters did not remove it. There has to be something I can do. Probably, a stupid question, but can one define a weapon coordinate manually? __________________ How to play NAB Last edited by Rajada; 3rd May 2010 at 01:20 AM.

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